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This reminds me of the historical period when London and Berlin were the two technology centers of the world, in intense competition to develop the next generation of math, science, and applications to military. Most scientists in one country did not read the output of the other country, although in some cases, the Danes or the Dutch would translate interesting research.

A scientist from London visiting Berlin (and vice versa) could well expect to be surveilled by the opposite country and possibly even considered a traitor by their own.



The Dutch make a big deal* out of the Mayflower cohort having done a significant transit in their city.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leiden_American_Pilgrim_Museum

Who knows if Ukraine will ever play such a historic role as the Netherlands, but it's nice to dream about

Taiwan could defo step up since they are already in their Golden Age

(And where shall the asylum seekers from US stopover?)

*big for the Dutch


There was also something like that with glassmaking in Florence hundreds of years ago.




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