I've heard the sleep people get with this is excellent, but no way in hell am I paying a subscription and requiring an internet connection for my bed. The entire concept is just absurd. If it sells, it sells, I guess.
The "smart" features on it are genuinely useful for me - I have sleep apnea, as well as an eight sleep + the electronic platform. It automatically changes the elevation of my head based on apnea events, and I see a marked reduction in them when using this feature.
I have a cpap machine that also makes automatic adjustments but I still get noticeably better sleep quality with the eight sleep. I also really enjoy the temperature control, since it saves on HVAC costs vs. climate controlling the whole house. I've not tried an aquarium chiller for this purpose, though I have used one for doing temperature control on a beer fermenter, and I can extrapolate from there that I value the management of the actual eight sleep device vs. managing an aquarium chiller's temp control.
> The "smart" features on it are genuinely useful for me...
All of those features could be provided by local compute, either nestled somewhere in the soft and fluffy gross profit margin of a $2,000 product, or with Bluetooth to a "thick" application running on a phone.
The reason this product, and so many other "IoT" products, put their compute across the Internet is to facilitate a business model. The industry has the technology to put as much compute, storage, and reliability on-site with a high-margin, high-cost product like this.
Even if it were a nightstand device rather than a phone. The immediate loss of functionality when loss of signal to the mothership is an egregious design flaw. There's no reason the thing can't have a bit of storage so it can then upload the logged data when the signal returns.
Of course, they'll probably claim AI running in the cloud is making the decisions which makes the local first controller not possible.
It would be nice if we could provide medical assistance to people who need it without jamming these devices full of adware garbage and forcing people to connect to the internet to use their own possessions.
I've also heard about people finding new foam mattresses too hot :(
like me. will buy a spring mattress next time
Edit thank you for your recommendation but I'm in italy, European and American mattresses are quite different.
Before discovering this, I once wrote to the customer support of the flamingo hotel, Las Vegas, because I loved their mattress: Hi, i do think that what i'm gonna write is weird, but anyway haha.
On july of the summer 2019 i visited the fabulous las vegas. nor the nightlife neither the opulence of sin city could, however, reach the pinnacle of the human civilization, the mattress on which i slept at flamingo. I now have to change my own mattress at home, and i'm looking for the model on which i slept. the website only says "Simmons beautyrest", although Beautyrest is just a brand name used by simmons and doesn't mean a specific model. could you help me in this modern day divine comedy, be my Virgil and help me find the mattress name?
Regards
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I got an answer: Thank you for contacting Caesars Entertainment. I was delighted to hear that you enjoyed our mattress on your visit! Currently, we are using the Simmons Hospitality Beautyrest Felicity Pillow Top. They can be purchased at https://caesarsguestpurchase.com/shop or 1-866-926-8233. Please feel free to write back if you have any further questions.
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While going with a non-foam mattress will be colder than a foam mattress, if you were interested in a colder foam then I'd like to recommend latex mattresses. They're more expensive than memory foam and they feel different but I no longer overheat at night. Also I sleep better knowing my bed has proper kerning.
Because the Talalay and Dunlop processes involve vulcanization at 115+ C to turn the material into a foamed rubber, which denatures the proteins that the immune system recognizes and overreacts to. Denatured protein - think egg white once it's heated and turns white, instead of clear - has its structure radically altered. The molecules get pulled apart, tangled with others, and can in no way be recognized by the antibodies that trigger the immune response.
Similarly, Talalay latex mattress material is usually only about 30% natural and 70% synthetic, and the synthetic does not cause immune response.
If you powder the natural material and directly expose it to IgE, the dominant protein of interest for allergies, you can get a reaction (https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/10436396/), but in practice with sheets and the outer cloth covering on the mattress basically no proteins ever come into contact with the body. And even in that study only Hev B I was detectable, which is only one of many latex proteins that trigger the immune response, and only 3 of the 21 tested human sera actually had a reaction to the direct mixing with the powdered latex. As far as I understand it, there has never been a confirmed case of an allergic reaction to a latex mattress.
Have you tried a more firm foam mattress? I had similar sentiments about foam mattresses but they were all the type where you just feel like you're sinking into the foam.
I did, but in the showrooms in the short time I tried them (and with jeans and clothes and so on) I didn't got that it was warmer than other firmer mattresses
