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I seem to be in the minority here, and I would definitely be framed as a supporter for saying this, but I'm a nuanced person.

He is more of an idiot than a scammer, legally I think the term is negligence instead of fraud. Having recognized that he caused damage by negligence, additionally I think he was a victim too, he was scammed out of political capital and reputation. I don't think he was in on it, although definitely someone near him definitely was, not necessarily a dev, but definitely someone with a "bag", holding it and speculating that it would go up, essentially utilizing their position for personal gain, which I think is a very classic form of corruption.

It's not the minister of economy, it's not his modus operandi (Funds and offshore accounts), this has the markings of someone young. Whatever he got out of it, either by buying early and holding, or by founding it himself, he for sure lost of all of his political capital.

I'll take a look at the specific contract, and addresses, I'm assuming it's a basic pump.fun thing, but there may be more to it.




I dont know which scenario is worse for a president, an experienced economist like him not understanding what he was endorsing or being part of the scam.


That's an interesting question, would we rather have our president be a scammer or scammed.

Similar question, is it better or worse if our country commits war or war is committed upon us?

And perhaps a different question, regardless if whether it is better or worse, which would we rather be if we had to chose.

Also let's remember that 'neither' is also an option. And oops just happened once but let's not make it a habit, is too. No need to go to extremes.


He is not an experienced economist. He holds a Master's from a third-rate private university and a doctorate from a degree mill. This myth needs to die.


He worked for various years as senior economist in a bank, and a high position in an economy consulting firm.

You are systematically commenting trying to harm his reputation in issues not linked to his disreputable act of promotion of the shitcoin.


> He worked for various years as senior economist in a bank

Ah, it looks like you were in a coma between about 2006 and 2012. I have bad news. Sometimes (whisper it!) banks _employ incompetent people_. I would be reluctant to take "oh, well, he once worked for _HSBC_" as that much of an endorsement.

Not to say that everyone who worked for HSBC was incompetent. But, er, clearly they were not all hypercompetent either, given what happened.


He is experienced. I didn't say he did or didn't do a good job there. My answer is a response to "he has no experience as an economist". It's not a response to what you are argumenting.


Note, it still remains disputed whether it is a scam, devs related are not admitting fraud yet. Although there was an admission of insider trading.

It's very likely they are denying to delay legal consequences or continue monetizing.


This would imply he got nothing out of it or even lost money and I highly doubt it because if he lost money he have have instantly sent out the police and justice department until he was made whole. The truth is this is plain corruption but instead of making millions he probably made a few $ 100ks over the span of a few hours.


That level of idiocy for sure begs impeachment. But he's not an idiot if he arose to the presidency, he's got a lot of savvy about how things work and who does what. Definitely worth inspecting inside and out.


You don't need to be a genius to become president as a populist - you just need to get rid of any kind of morals (if you still had some at the outset).


Yes, but you do need some kind of intelligence to last a year as a non peronist in Argentina and getting the economy to turn around and prevent a hyperinflation.

Either way, this event is bad, he is either negligent or criminal, and the opposition has been looking for a motive to impeach him since he took power, I can't believe he gave it to them.


"Never attribute to stupidity that which is adequately explained by corruption" - Argentinian saying




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