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Are they misquoting anything that Google said?


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It's funny that this could be interpreted as either far left (the biases against marginalized people need to be heavily counteracted in order for them to succeed) or far right (without DEI they would be unable to succeed on their own merits because they are less able than the typical white male straight christians). What it can't be interpreted as is reasonable. It's insulting no matter how you look at it, either paternalistic or white supremecist. Saying that everyone who isn't of certain skin color, gender, religion, or orientation is "fucked" without relatively recent HR initiatives is on its face ridiculous and insulting to those who have succeeded without it, which is the vast majority of them! Probably not what you actually meant but this whole topic seems so ridiculously polarized that people will post those type of extemist interpretations without a second thought.

e: ah, just looked at the username and account creation date. I'm now rescinding my assumption of good faith intent.


"It's insulting no matter how you look at it, either paternalistic or white supremecist"

I'm puking in my mouth a little.

Pretty clear we know you fall on this issue. I read a good post today: Don't try to explain Kendrick Lamar to someone Harriet Tubman would shoot.

e: I create a new account for each post because I value privacy, and not fake internet points.


I think it's definitely helpful to describe a source's political leaning to add context to a discussion. However, claiming that they generally "hate big tech, love DEI" seems a little disingenuous. I think, HN is best when it's nuanced and does not jump and feed on hyperbolic culture war topics primarily used as ragebait.

There surely are many articles supportive of diversity initiatives published by the Guardian. But they have also published critical and nuanced articles on the subject. Here are a two examples:

"Focusing on diversity means we miss the big picture. It’s class that shapes our lives" -> https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jan/29/focusi...

"So your company uses diversity training. Does it even work?" -> https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/mar/10/workplace-dive...


Fucked because of the deeply engrained racism, sexism, and homophobia in American society right?

It's like people forget many of the people you see in those photos hanging black people, letting the police dogs go into a crowd, putting glass in the chairs of the Little Rock nine, etc are still alive. My living parents and grand mother were both born into a segregated country.

The civil rights legislation was passed in 1965

Donald Trump lived his entire childhood in a country where it was completely fine to use and treat minorities like trash. I think he and a lot of other people miss it.




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