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All those "Negative user focused" are actually "Apple proprietary problems" (problems that exist only on apple because of their weird proprietary stuff with no standards following, ie, getting temp on any other system is dead simple). Not sure if you actually believe in your list or you just used an AI that made the mistake.

I counted paragraphs topics myself: History (3), Proprietary Hardware Problems (8), Kernel/Rust problems (8), Other/Quitting (7). Could be off by one or two because I'm not a machine.

Also, I note that you did not disagree with or object to my initial response (the one made before your edit) that it is indeed halfway down the page before rust/kernel stuff is even mentioned.

I think it is safe to say that both Apple and the kernel/rust issues matter here and trying to derail any discussion of Apple's role into even more rust ragebait threads in a HN topic full of them is counterproductive.




> All those "Negative user focused"

No. Those are issues caused by users. You could have most open hardware platform, and it would still persist. See any OSS maintainer complaining about unrealistic user expectations.

> I counted paragraphs topics myself: Proprietary Hardware Problems (8), Kernel/Rust problems (8)

How are you counting those? I made a table, point me which exact paragraphs. Also it's deceptive to pull Rust into this story. marcan had nothing but praise for it, without it, he wouldn't be able to write those drivers.

The main complaint of marcan is the horrible experience you have as a hobbyist Linux contributor. You can't blame Rust or Apple for that. That's on Linus, and Linux maintainers.




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