Nationalistic flamewar will get you banned here, regardless of how badly other commenters are behaving. No more of this, please.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

I am European and American and have lived on both continents. They’re both nice places but in different ways. We shouldn’t be speaking so coarsely to each other, if for nothing else than it’s simply bad rhetoric if you care to make a point. On the other hand at best we should choose kindness because civilization depends on it. Nations are just useful fictions but the facts that can never go away are the people that inhabit them. So I strongly urge anyone reading this to reconsider what kind of person they want to be before responding to rudeness with rudeness.

If it's any consolation I'm just American and I believe Trump is an incontinent rubber stamp for any brown-noser that orbits him and Elon deserves to be unceremoniously gored with a brick.