>It has been a kleptocracy for decades and they've been looting all of us with no resistence or accountability.

And yet, the average life in US has gotten better and better under democratic rule, while worse under republican rule.

The problem with people like you is that you are so bought into a narrative of "government bad" that any sort of mistake or non optimal that the government does is seen by you as corruption.

And then when you have people like Musk, Rogan, Hotz, and other prophet wannabes that amplify that messaging, it solidifies that in your mind and you move become farther and farther from reality, until you are solidly in MAGA land where anything liberal is automatically bad, even if your side does the exact same thing.

There is a shitload of government bloat and inefficiencies, but these things need to be trimmed over a long period of time, not by Musk style of breaking things without giving a fuck about what he breaks.

Most of the metrics that matter have gotten worse over the past decades. Under both democrats and republicans. Education, physical and mental health, cost of living, healthcare costs, wealth inequality, I could go on.

When you see all the smart people like Musk, Hotz, Andreesen, Ackman, getting involved and changing their minds, maybe it's time to reconsider your priors too.

People like Musk and Andreesen getting involved are evidence that you're about to see fraud and overreach that concentrates power and resources in their hands instead of the American people. No matter what you think about Trump and whether he's actually trying to do a good thing, those people getting on board are not a good sign.

>Education

Here is the problem. You say this like a blanket statement, because you are parroting a popular talking point, but they and you intentionally leave it blank, because to any counter anyone gives you, you always have a response.

For example, I can say "well more people are graduating with college degrees", to which you reply "well the degrees are worthless because the actual education sucks". To which I reply "well data clearly shows that people with college degrees are making more money", to which you reply "yea because its all just fake money, those people aren't doing anything of value". To which I reply "yes but money still gets exchanged and economy keeps on going", to which you reply "but this is not sustainable"

So now, its not that education has gotten worse, you just think that the education is not correct for what you personally believe the future society is going to require. But you will never state that point directly, because you know it makes you sound dumb since you have no way to actually prove what the future society will look like.

>cost of living

Not really. Houses have gotten more expensive, but thats a supply issue. Average cost of living for the same standard has gotten better - you get more things for about the same money after inflation. Lots of places you don't need a car to get around, remote work is a lot more prevalent, saving people a shitload of money, and access to goods and services has gotten better (Amazon delivers to a lot of places now, giving access to acceptable quality goods for low prices)

>wealth inequality

So perhaps the worlds richest man shouldn't have power over the Treasury?

The other stuff has issues, but again just because there are issues doesn't mean you have to tear it up.

This is what I mean, you just repeat these talking points without any sort of critical thinking. Its the actual "woke" mind virus that they ironically talk about - it feels good to believe that you know what the actual problem is and think that you know the right solution. But you don't and neither to they.

And penultimatey, here is the real thing to think about. Both Musk and Hotz are very much into AI/ML. They both understand that their brains are neural networks. They both understand that to have a well performing neural network, you need to have good training, and specifically discriminant training on errors. A neural network cannot point out its own errors. It needs an external source. With humans, this looks like conversation with opposing side where you end up either reinforcing what you know because you are able to show factually that the other person is wrong, or changing your own beliefs and views when the opposite happen.

But none of them do that. They just like to preach ideology without ever anyone challenging it. They get facts wrong all the time, make baseless predictions that hardly ever come true, and never own their mistakes. Badly trained neural networks.

So in the end, they are literally the exact thing they hate - "woke" people preaching in their echochambers. Horseshoe effect. Or alternatively, they are just straight up lying to the likes of you and anyone gullible enough, so that they can gain more power. Those are the only 2 possibilities.

Generally, you are correct about one thing, and that is mental health. The reason why these people have power is because when people, especially young men, don't have anything in their life to feel proud about, they tend to attach themselves to an ideology. It works like this for both left and right, again horseshoe effect. The physiological reason why some college students feel the need to go to Pro Palestine protests and justify Hamas acts of terror, ignoring the reality of the situation, is the same reason why you feel the need to call Musk smart. So this is definitely problem that needs to get solved. But not by anyone on either end of the horseshoe.

Go read Trump's sovereign wealth fund announcement from today. The plan is to take all the money from the tariffs (and other unspecified actions he takes, probably including the stuff DOGE does), and then spend it on private investments of his choosing.

So, he's already announced you'll be paying 10-25% tax on all imported goods moving forward, and that he'll personally loot the revenue.

You're too far gone...