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I'm not being sarcastic, but we may soon have to torrent DeepSeek's model. OpenAI has a lot of clout in the US and could get DeepSeek banned in western countries for copyright.


> US and could get DeepSeek banned in western countries for copyright

If US is going to proceed with trade war on EU, as it was planning anyway, then DeepSeek will be banned only in US. Seems like term "western countries" is slowly eroding.


Great point. Plus, the revival of serious talk of the Monroe Doctrine (!!!) in the U.S. government lends a possibly completely-new meaning to "western countries" -- i.e. the Americas...


Except the US has only contempt for anything south of Texas. Perhaps "western countries" will be reduced to US and Canada.

Many countries in Latin America have better relations and more robust trade partnerships with China.

As for the EU, I think it will be great for it to shed its reliance on the US, and act more independently from it.


The US is talking about annexing Canada, so "western countries" means the USA, which if continuing down this path long enough will become a pariah


This always reminds me of the Fallout opening video.


Only if they do it by force.

Trump has already managed to completely destroy the US reputation within basically the entire continent¹. And he seems intent on creating a commercial war against all the countries here too.

1 - Do not capture and torture random people on the street if you want to maintain some goodwill. Even if you have reasons to capture them.


Yeah... I don't think goodwill was ever a very central part of the Monroe doctrine. Its imperial expansionism, plain n' simple. Embargo + pressure who you can, depose any governments that resist, threaten the rest into silent compliance.

Scary times.


I think most likely all sorts of data and models need to have a decentralized LLM data archive via torrents etc.

It’s not limited to the models themselves but also OpenAI will probably work towards shutting down access to training data sets also.

imho it’s probably an emergency all hand on deck problem.


Unfathomable to me that they'd make themselves look so foolish by trying to ban a piece of software.


It wouldn't be foolish. The US has an active cult of personality, and whatever the leader says, half the country believes it unquestioningly. If OpenAI is said to be protecting America and DeepSeek is doing terrible, terrible things to the children (many smart people are saying it), there'll be an overnight pivot to half the country screaming for it to be banned and harassing anyone who says otherwise.

Who cares if some people think you look foolish when you have a locked down 500 billion dollar investment guarantee?


that would be suicide - that company only exists because they stole content for every single person, website and media company on the planet.




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