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Remote start, climate etc from the app all require and always on connection (how else?). Tesla has the same thing.

I use the remote app often - quite useful.




Remote start does not require an app nor an always on connection. I was able to do this with a key fob in the early 00s


Neither does climate control. If I remote start my Civic with its fob, it will heat or cool to the desired temperature I left it on. (And it will run the defroster if it's below a certain temperature outside.)

Having to think about the climate control is an anti-feature in itself, when that's a basic thermostat feature...


Key fob works great if the car is close. Remote start by app is fantastic when it’s farther away.


Why would you want to remote start a car if you are a mile away?


I used to commute into the city by express bus. Drive to Metro Transit Park-n-Ride lot, park the car and get on the bus.

On the way back a lot of people would start their cars (via app) when about 5 minutes away from the lot. That translates to about 4-5 miles at freeway speed.

Alternately, at the office, some people parked at a lot that was about a mile away and it's nice to be able to start your car when it's 95F or -15F so it's comfortable when you get there.


All I see is a waste of gasoline. Back when I was living in a cold country and drove a car early in the morning I would just use gloves, keep my jacket and heat my seat with a fart. ;-)


Whatever works for you. Me, I like my creature comforts.


Umm… maybe not a mile, but if you’re walking ten minutes in ice/snow (maybe a quarter mile), it is VERY nice to have it warm when you get there. I’m surprised this is surprising.


I know how key fobs work, thank you.

I mean the ability to control the car remotely without line of sight or being anywhere near it, such as turning on the climate to warm up the car while still in a building so it's not freezing cold when we get back to the car with the kids, or while the car is in the garage, locking the car remotely because you're blocks away and aren't 100% sure you locked it before you left, opening the windows slightly so the car doesn't overheat in hot weather (Subaru doesn't do this unfortunately, but the Tesla does). The one thing it doesn't do which I wish it did, is roll up the windows remotely.


Maybe it's because I don't live in a cold climate, but I've never wanted to do this.


It's because you don't live in a cold climate.




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