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It could be made more fair if all the hostages were released. Why would international society accept hundreds of peaceful civilians being tortured, raped and murdered for over a year as acceptable?

Israel actually built a lot of the civilian infrastructure, including the largest hospital in Gaza. It's pretty clear those places are being used as terrorist hideouts and to launch rocket attacks. Why is it acceptable to shoot rockets purely targeting civilians while breaking a cease fire agreement?




> hundreds of peaceful civilians being tortured, taped and murdered

There is no absolute evidence that any of Hamas' hostages have been raped or tortured - according to released hostages, they were treated very well! AFAIK the only known instance of Hamas murdering a hostage was when a fighter lost it after Israel killed his entire family - all the other deaths have been a result of Israeli bombs (because if you want hostages back, you bomb them... right?!).

And as you doubtless know, many of the "peaceful civilians" are actually serving IDF members...

And as you also doubtless know, Palestinian hostages are routinely raped and tortured to death in Israeli dungeons - there is a wealth of evidence.

> It's pretty clear those places are being used as terrorist hideouts and to launch rocket attacks.

This is what Israeli Hasbara do - repeat unevidenced claims until people accept them as "truth". But it's lies, there isn't a shred of evidence that Hamas as used even a single hospital as a "terrorist hideout". You know who has repurposed Gazan hospitals for military ops? Israel - every accusation is a confession with them.


You have first hand accounts of the rape and abuse by the people who were kidnapped.

https://edition.cnn.com/2024/03/26/middleeast/amit-soussana-...

What do you mean there is no proof? There are mountains of evidence.


That's the first time I've seen this story. As harrowing as it is, it describes the sexual abuse of one woman, not rape.


Here's another one. All you need to do is look.

https://time.com/7207459/israeli-hostages-gaza-ceasefire/

You wrote in your comments that the hostages were treated well. This is absolutely not the case.

There are plenty of hostages, btw, who have openly discussed that they were raped repeatedly. I don't have the stomach to reread the hostage accounts but they are easy to find online.


Can't believe we're here again.

> There is no absolute evidence that any of Hamas' hostages have been raped or tortured - according to released hostages, they were treated very well!

Hamas literally executed some: https://edition.cnn.com/2024/09/01/middleeast/israel-gaza-ww...

But yeah, other than that, treated very well!


This "news article" doesn't support your claims - it only says the IGF claims these hostages were killed a short while before they reached them. Given the IGF has murdered Israeli hostages up close, has taken the approach of reducing gaza to rubble, and is constantly caught lying, it's far more likely these hostages were killed by bombs or IGF bullets.


How are you supporting a group that would take a newborn baby as a hostage? What drugs do you need to take to pretend that it's ok and defend the kidnappers?!?


I'm not supporting Hamas or what they did on October 7th. I'm against genocide and the utterly, utterly horrifying actions of the IDF, and against Israeli propaganda that has been used to manufacture consent for a modern day holocaust.

BTW, Israel has killed at least the equivalent of one Palestinian child every 30 minutes since October 7th. That is just mind-boggling evil at an industrial scale.


If all you do is look at the death count then it's easy to use a number and point against Israel.

You need to go deeper. The best article I've scene on the subject for some moral clarity is here:

https://www.samharris.org/blog/the-bright-line-between-good-...


> It's pretty clear those places are being used as terrorist hideouts and to launch rocket attacks.

No, this is not pretty clear. This is pure Israeli propaganda.




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