> If we forbid words that offend someone, somewhere, we would be left with no language.
And yet, according to you, we've banned all sorts of words based on offense and society is still standing.
I think it's interesting that you're simultaneously insisting that there is no conspiracy, and yet you're describing something that is demonstrably not true, and not out in the open. There has been no elimination of white families from the mainstream. The overwhelming majority of all positions of power globally are held by white people. Where is the real-world harm? Overzealous models? A commercial with a lesbian couple in it? What you don't realize is that you've recreated so-called "woke panic" -- you're just doing a right wing version of it whatever your stated beliefs.
And your last graf displays this really well:
> I despise Trump, Musk, MAGA, and conservatism in general. Gamergate was largely a bunch of incels attacking any women who dared to be in gaming or game journalism. Yet I have the awareness of the world enough to see that the "woke" nonsense, particularly woke racism/sexism, has been massively destructive to progressivism and leftist causes. It's literally why the world is going to have four dangerous years of Trump.
You're blaming Kamala Harris' disastrous campaign on woke. Why did her campaign start so late? Why wasn't she nominated to that position in the primary? Because the Democratic party chose to elevate the feelings of Joseph Biden, a literal segregationist and misogynist, over even winning elections. They had no chance at all once they did that. But you can't even look at reality as it is because you're fixated on your imaginary witch hunt. I can't help you with that.
> You seem to have some trouble following along if this is your ridiculous take on what has been discussed. Some words went from being benign to being cancelled as language evolved. Saying someone somewhere was offended at some point in the past to dismiss this absolute reality is just noisy No True Scotsman nonsense.
I mean.. you're the one who said it was unworkable? Be more exact in your language? What language is acceptable in a given society is a function of ideology and power. There has never never been this halycon period of free speech. Just speech amenable to whatever your ideology is.
> How much of leadership of China is white? India? Japan? Vietnam? Nigeria? Egypt? Saudi Arabia? Do they have governments that represent modern audiences?
It's actually hilarious, because all of the countries you're mentioning were previously colonized. They literally all engaged in armed revolution to overthrow white overlords.
> To fix this they put in a dictum that all promotions beyond a certain level could be anything but white male outside of a great exception policy. This was, again, not conspiracy but an open DEI policy. Now, that's great that they're righting their own wrongs, so to speak, but for the thousands of white males in this company it instantly put a giant concrete ceiling over them. I was already on my way out so to me it was hilarious, but this sort of "now we right those wrongs!" rightly cause enormous grievances.
You shouldn't be posting about this on HN. Just sue them! It's the perfect time. Post about the suit on HN if you need to. That policy is broadly illegal. But I don't think you will, because it didn't happen.
> Ah yes, the old "if only they were more "woke" they would totally have won the election against a literal rapist felon charity-stealing smooth-brain.
Again, you're shoehorning wokeness into a conversation where it doesn't exist. You've stared into the Palantir for too long lol. The Democrats didn't need to be woke, they just needed to run as a competent party! They didn't do that in service of wokeness, they did it in service of a hyper-conservative status quo and importantly, against the interests of minorities. Kamala Harris then campaigned on deporting immigrants and having the strongest military in the world. She had corrupt police on stage at the DNC and kicked Palestinian activists out. She was a prosecutor for gods sake, she's not woke. So why do you continue to insist that her performance was about wokeness?
Literally never said unworkable. Are you just trolling? Further, never did I harken to a "halcyon of free speech", or even say those words should be allowed. You seem to be arguing with ghosts in your head. My language has been painfully clear, again and again. Are you just inventing conversations in your head?
Language evolves. Your retorts were ignorant and wrong.
>because all of the countries you're mentioning were previously colonized
Indeed, history has included countless colonization efforts by various powers. China had various tribes/groups overrun and subjugate/annihilate each other. As did India. And of course the Middle East has just been an unending sea of conquests, including the whole Ottoman empire conquests most recently. The Americas were many disparate groups engaged in what archeologists believe was endless warfare, with many tribes practicing slavery and subjugation, mass rapes and exterminations, etc.
Oh, right, you think colonize only applies when white people do it. Right. The woke mind worms are devastating.
>That policy is broadly illegal. But I don't think you will, because it didn't happen.
It is 100% legal. Again you seem to know nothing about what you're talking about. Canada's charter explicitly proscribes (Section 15(2)) and allows "affirmative action", which was precisely what I described. The very government of this country engages in this at this very moment. But good attempt at calling me a liar when you are clueless about this.
>You said we’d have no language if something that you claim is happening, happened
My god. I claimed some some benign words have become offensive as language evolved. You said they were never benign because someone, somewhere didn't like them, despite being almost universally accepted and used directly by the people for whom they are now offensive. Etc.
If you're going to keep erecting strawmen, keep up with your own ridiculous noise. You are arguing ad absurdum and I wonder if you think it's effective.
>But it is hilarious that your attempt to list institutions that are not ruled by people of European descent
Ah yes, the "a European guy ruled over that area a hundred years ago, so too bad poor Appalachian white male you suffer the payment" argument. It is super convincing and not at all racist trash.
>Employment Equity Act
The employment act specifically does not protect white males. It is not a designated group, which are-
-women
-Indigenous peoples
-persons with disabilities
-members of visible minorities
Affirmative actions -- precisely what I described -- is overtly, 100% legal in Canada. You are absolutely wrong, and completely committed to your ignorance.
And yes, these acts were created long before the woke panic, when they were largely harmless. They were racist, sexist, and grossly indefensible at the time, but they didn't have much of an impact. More recently firms, under the woke brigades gaze, started actually putting them into effect. Firms like RBC openly boast about their diversity efforts (where diversity means hiring 80% Indians).
At this point you simply must be trolling because there is no case where a human could be so profoundly ill informed or dense. Erect some more ridiculous strawmen and get your last word, as I am absolutely done with your nonsense.
You have done no such thing. You have repeatedly made up quotes and words that I never used, and argued a position that no on here held.
>You’re just caught up in a race panic
You and every other prig just cannot fathom or tolerate alternate beliefs, so you constantly have to pigeonhole in this simpleminded, strawman way (hilariously when discussing opposition to a race panic. When the woke, like you, see everything through the lens of sex, sexuality and race, accusing others of doing it might not be as convincing as you think).
> When you wake up and discover that Indians or woke or whatever
One day you'll realize that white males aren't the reason you're so unhappy. Probably not.
> I hope you’re open minded enough to change.
I hope you stop wasting people's time online with such absolute drivel.
