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> like what?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/oct/02/us-russia-puti...

The US and its allies would destroy Russia’s troops and equipment in Ukraine – as well as sink its Black Sea fleet – if the Russian president, Vladimir Putin, uses nuclear weapons in the country, former CIA director and retired four-star army general David Petraeus warned on Sunday.

Petraeus said that he had not spoken to national security adviser Jake Sullivan on the likely US response to nuclear escalation from Russia, which administration officials have said has been repeatedly communicated to Moscow.

He told ABC News: “Just to give you a hypothetical, we would respond by leading a Nato – a collective – effort that would take out every Russian conventional force that we can see and identify on the battlefield in Ukraine and also in Crimea and every ship in the Black Sea.”



"former CIA director and retired four-star army general" does not decide new Trump policies.

Also, in this situation directly targeting Russian troops and ships will trigger even more tactical nuke on Eastern European targets.


NATO can do several levels of conventional response that is at once completely in accordance with international law, more destructive to Russia than tactical nukes will be to Ukraine, and not threatening proliferation.

And Russia will be nuking shit left and right each time in response? What do you think this will achieve?

China will invade them at that point :) After their conventional army is destroyed in Ukraine and they are tossing nukes around - why not?

If your only card is "I'll commit extended suicide" - you're done.


> more destructive to Russia than tactical nukes will be to Ukraine, and not threatening proliferation.

as I said second tactical nuke will be on NATO military base/infra in EU.

> And Russia will be nuking shit left and right each time in response? What do you think this will achieve?

this will achieve EU NATO countries to stop engage in proxy/direct wars with Russia, because damage will be very asymmetrical.

> China will invade them at that point :)

China won't invade Russia, because Asian part of Russia is not that attractive, and because Russia has many strategic nukes to defer China.




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