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Apple gives out free developer id certificates. There's no reason Microsoft couldn't do the same.


Where does Apple give out free developer id certificates? Last I saw I had to purchase the $99 developer program ...

https://developer.apple.com/resources/developer-id/


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Okay, "free" was poor phrasing. I should have said "no extra charge". Compare this to the situation described in the original article, where the developer had to buy a separate $59 certificate from a third party, on top of what Microsoft charges you for Visual Studio (which looks to be $499 for the cheapest non-evaluation version).


Express isn't an evaluation version. Also, it's trivially easy to get setup with BizSpark if you're a small startup and get free copies of Visual Studio.


http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/05/no-cos...

No mobile apps, no conventional desktop apps, no command line apps... looks pretty "evaluaty" to me. Also: "private developers will have to pay $49 a year, corporations $99 a year."

So, on the one hand we have (from Apple):

Xcode (free or $5.00, depending on what kind of mood Apple is in that week) Developer program with store access: $99/year Code-sigining certificate: included.

From Microsoft we have: Non-crippled Visual Studio: $499 Developer program with store access: $49-$99/year Code-signing certificates: must be purchased separately from a third party.

What a bargain!


Sorry, but Microsoft backpedaled after the bad press. You can download Windows 8 development tools for free now. [1]

Your info about "no command line apps" is also outdated. It USED to be true, but I have VS2010 Express, and it came with the command line tools:

    c:\Devel\Msdev.2010\Common7\Tools>vsvars32
    vsvars32
    Setting environment for using Microsoft Visual Studio 2010 x86 tools.

    c:\Devel\Msdev.2010\Common7\Tools>cl
    cl
    Microsoft (R) 32-bit C/C++ Optimizing Compiler Version 16.00.40219.01 for 80x86
    Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation.  All rights reserved.

    usage: cl [ option... ] filename... [ /link linkoption... ]

    c:\Devel\Msdev.2010\Common7\Tools>  
I also use XCode, and it's ... not nearly as good as Visual Studio, though I am liking the new Eclipse-like "compile your code as you're typing it" real time error markup. A friend tells me that XCode can be configured to be sane, but I haven't given it a try yet.

[1] http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/apps/br229516




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