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I'm OK with them popping up on mouse-over, many web sites have taken the easy route and disabled them completely on one or both axes.

Then the only way to scroll on desktop is to highlight text across the frame's edge.



Nah, I hate that. Frequently it gets in my way when I have my screen split with two browsers side by side. I'll try to hover over the scrollbar on the right hand side of the left page, try to click, and end up clicking the right window. Give me the whole damn scrollbar please.


Exactly. I have a 5120-pixel-wide monitor. I can afford the space needed to display a scroll bar.


Middle click your mouse button then move mouse to the right, thats the best way to do it.


shift + mouse scroll for horizontal scroll works too, at least on Firefox.


Yeah, if I'm reading something, I want to have an indication of how long a page is and where I am currently. I don't want to have to move my mouse somewhere to get that information.




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