Maybe it's borderline not "Western", but Turkey famously haven't gotten to allow people to refuse service.
> In 2021 Europe was not a safe place for many conscientious objectors in several countries who faced prosecution, arrests, trials by military courts, imprisonments, fines, intimidation, attacks, death threats, and discrimination. These countries include Turkey (the only CoE Member State who has not yet recognised the right to conscientious objection)
I think I remember talking with some Greek person at some point as well, where "conscientious objection" theoretically exists, but the alternative ends up longer than the military service + basically feels like a punishment, rather than an alternative.
Finland too has options of military service, civil service(guaranteed to be equal length to maximum military) or incarceration. Later which usually is mostly not inside institution, but with tracking and quarantine inside home.
Getting too fat would work if you find a doctor to write a paper and you will get away with it during peace time.
By "Western" I think I meant "stereotypical Western and Northern European"
> I think I remember talking with some Greek person at some point as well, where "conscientious objection" theoretically exists, but the alternative ends up longer than the military service + basically feels like a punishment, rather than an alternative.
Alternatively they can work in care facilities (elderly care, psychiatric hospitals, etc…). I dont have the details but i know a few people who did this
nah you don't need to be in a jail, but you do need to prove this has been a deep seated view, and one you've held for a long time.
the Amish, for example, don't get drafted. same with priests, or folks who can demonstrate a long history of attending Quaker services, or membership in the Humanist league, etc.
Nope. That's a Western thing.
Conscientious objectors are allowed, but then you must work in a jail.