The push for the 8 hour work day over a century ago was often accompanied with slogans to the effect of "8 hours work, 8 hours rest, 8 hours for what we will."

5 hours round trip commuting a day is giving up over half of your prerogative time to simply shuffling from one place to another.

The Bay Area is lucrative monetarily and all, but there's just no world where that's worth it for me.

A lot of people had to literally fight and die for that 8 hour day too.

I’ve worked in tech in the Bay for over a decade and met a handful of people with that insane of a commute. It’s not normal.

That's because having children in SF is not "normal," a huge fraction of new workers are single male tech workers. SF is the city with the fewest children per capita in the country, Daly City is #6.

https://www.aaastateofplay.com/the-u-s-cities-with-the-most-...

Plenty of my colleagues have had kids.

Well, OK, there are ways for a young tech family to avoid the 2+ hour commute:

- Be extremely well paid, and don't mind buying a $1.5m house that would go for $500K in, say, Pittsburg CA.

- Squeeze into an apartment.

- Buy near one BART station and find a job near another, e.g. if you buy right next to the Pittsburg station and work at Uber HQ it's 1 hour each way. This mostly rules out Apple, Meta, Google, etc.

Another way of course is if your colleagues bought homes at around the time of the market lows, but that was ~15 years ago, so they would not be young families.

With hours like that, do they really though? Or did they just procreate?

>13 hours of work...

... what?

13 hours of (work + commute) -- that's 5 hours of commute + 8 hours of work.

The parentheses help a lot. I also thought the original commenter was implying 13 hours of work + the 5 hour commute and couldn’t figure out where they got the 13 from haha