Has Sweden been destroying Africa? Yes, I know about Lundin Oil, what else? And the rest of Europe? Sources please? :)
Climate refugees are not Europe's responsibility. Check USA, China and India.
Why should Europe destroy USA relations over Iran. Why is Iran our responsibility?
The current war in the Middle East was started by Hamas on October 7th. Israel have my full personal support, but Europe does not "supply a ton of weapons to Israel". We are currently sending all stock to Ukraine. But again, the war got started by Hamas. Hezbollah is an Iranian puppet. Hezbollah shelled and rocket attacked Israel, is Israel not allowed to respond? Should Israel just take the attacks? Why is Israel responsible for the internal politics of Hamas/Palestine/Hezbollah?
I am MORE pro USA now than before. Has USA done bad stuff like war crimes? Sure. But let us be frank, the Cold War never went away. Now you are either with the USA and Europe side OR you are with Iran, Russia, China, and North Korea side. It is clear what side you are on.
The history that the land used to be Ottoman Empire, then under British rule due to WW1, Britain allowed Israel to be made, then Arab nations attacked Israel 3 times in war, Israel won 3 times, took some land, now Arabs are mad because they started wars that Israel won.
That about covers it.
>Europe should be on Europe's side. Not be the lapdog of the United States. But that's unfathomable for many people.
Putin talking point. Finland and Sweden are now in NATO. It's over for you, Ivan.
Britain allowed Israel to be made, then Arab nations attacked Israel 3 times in war, Israel won 3 times, took some land, now Arabs are mad because they started wars that Israel won.
And these are standard hasbara talking points. You're forgetting that they don't work on people who actually knows the basic history of the region.
I agree in part. We supported many proxy wars of the US and some that were based on total lies (2nd Iraq war, Afghanistan where we really had no business and accomplished nothing).
Iran, I don't know.. I feel like their beef is with the US and we're just not really a party in this whole mess. We don't owe them anything and they don't consider us friends either. As for Gaza you probably know that this is a hugely contentious issue even in Europe. A lot of us are really strongly against these weapon supplies. In the Netherlands citizens even managed to get a court order for the state to supply F-35 parts to Israel: https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/dutch-cou...
Some countries like Germany are too pro-Israel due to some shame from actions in the past but I agree they should open their eyes to what is happening now. I don't condone what Hamas has done and is doing but both sides are bad. We shouldn't support either but bring them to the negotiating table.
> You don't get to complain about those people wanting to pursue happiness just like literally any of your country people.
This is a different issue from refugeeism IMO, although some economic migrants are claiming refugee status (and thus taking resources from those who are real refugees). It takes a long time to reject them because they often destroy their documentation. These are much more of a problem than real refugees. And they are giving the real refugees a bad name.
I'm very left-wing but I do think we need to limit immigration from outside EU. We can't open the gates without limit to anyone who wants to move here because it would destroy us too. The political polarisation is already so strong (a bit like the US in fact). The Netherlands has grown by several million inhabitants by immigration alone and in some cities migrants with a non-western heritage are now in the majority.
This is a problem because of pretty seriously different social norms (e.g. stances on LGBTIQ+ topics, freedom of opinion etc). And this polarisation is fueling the extreme-right parties which we already see happening in Europe. In the Netherlands the extreme-right party became the biggest one in parliament in the last election. I don't agree with their points but this polarisation is tearing the country apart, and we see the same in the rest of Europe (France only recently dodged a bullet there).
The issues that are being blamed on the refugees and migrants are squarely to blame on our previous neoliberal governments who completely neglected affordable housing programs and environmental issues (nitrogen, natural gas dependencies) so we're now in a severely limited situation. But knowing that makes no real difference to the situation.
And I don't think the middle east was really destroyed by us. In fact they have a lot more money than us. Africa yes but that's been much longer ago. And even countries that are free are shooting themselves in the foot with corruption. This is not our fault.
I think you're mistaken about the Africa situation. France participated in the NATO Libya operations to preserve the dominance of the CFA Franc in Africa.
