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Europe can keep doing its regulatory thing while the US works to improve. At least someone is doing something.


The only thing the US improves in is:

- people dying earlier than their European counterparts

- the price of insulin and healthcare in general is hundreds of times bigger than in other countries

- people being less free than anywhere in Europe: https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/freedom-i...

- school shootings numbers rising each year

It feels that the US is "improving" in the wrong direction.


Is it just me or are there more low effort posts like this that seems to do nothing but try and cause a flame war?

As the rules says “ Please don't use Hacker News for political or ideological battle. That tramples curiosity.”


Yes, the quality of comments on HN have gone down considerably over the years.


Yes, but a comment like:

> Europe can keep doing its regulatory thing while the US works to improve. At least someone is doing something.

is perfectly fine.

On the other hand, somebody questioning what's actually improving in the US is a low quality comment because "it's politics".

The US has regressed down in every possible human development index in the last 2 decades, from happiness and freedoms, to longevity, inequality and societal division.

Here are some receipts:

- Freedom index https://sites.uci.edu/energyobserver/2020/01/15/the-united-s...

- Longevity https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2023/03/25/1164819...

- Inequality https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Income_inequality_in_the_Unite... (inequality, by the way, is inversely correlated to strength of labor unions)

- Medical costs https://www.statista.com/chart/8658/health-spending-per-capi...

Since when are statistics and facts considered low quality posts and "politics"?

My point is that the low amount of regulation in the US is part of the reasons why US consumers are taking a hit, whether it's monopolistic app stores that can crank prices, exorbitant medical costs, plummeting living standards and rampant inequality, and crashing longevity and happiness.


This a complex issue with a lot of nuance. Hope is important, measurement of what needs to be changed is important, as well as scoping to topics instead of trying to boil the ocean (enumerating a tire fire, for example). One problem at a time.

In this thread, Europe has shown regulation is possible. The US has as well, with the FTC and DOJ actions of late. So while there are lots of problems left to solve, it’s okay to appreciate what has been solved so for, and to work to understand the burden of work that remains. Lets not rant, lets solve problems. And stay hopeful!

Tangentially, I think sentiment has declined and “low effort posts” are more frequent because the world has become an objectively worse place over the last 10-15 years. Posts are simply reflecting reality.


There absolutely are more flamebait comments. Use that flag button - from what I understand, downvotes are for low-quality comments, whereas flags are for comments that straight-up break the site guidelines.


What does “works to improve” mean. It’s like you wanted to shoehorn the US in here.


To those of us in the US, it is relevant that we have to rely on Europe’s regulatory actions when the US government fails to regulate. Send help.


I assume you mean the one doing something is the EU, right?




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