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Not to be that guy but Romania isn't "first world" (yet).

It's still very much developing imo.



"First world" doesn't mean developed, it means aligned with the US.


IIRC, a couple of years ago it passed into the developed nations club.


It's HDI is still well below those of other "developed" countries (0.900 and above), and despite the GDP per Capita increase, average household (EDIT: individual, not household) income is still below $6,000/yr [0] so comparable to Mexico, Thailand, and Turkiye (edit: comparable to Mexico and Turkiye, not Thailand which is at $6,000 still)

In 10-15 it will become a developed country but right now it isn't.

I am a big Romania booster though so I'm not trying to put it down

[0] - https://insse.ro/cms/en/content/household-income-and-expendi...


Fine, how about Ursula v.d. Leyen? It's not a quota system, but politicians in developed EU countries too get groomed and put in high leadership positions due to their family connections. It's more rare here since the wealthy elite tend to fund political candidates to do their bidding and not get involved into politic personally but it's the same kind of buying influence just with extra steps.

>average household income is still below $6,000/yr

WAHT?! That smells like bullshit. Average NET monthly salary in Romania is around 1000 Euros[1] now meaning roughly 12000/year.

Did you check your link you posted? According to that average household income in Romania is 1334 Euros per month or 1600 Euros per year. Where the hell did you get 6000 USD/year? Did you ask a hallucinating LLM and didn't bother to fact check it? Romania is poor but is not that poor.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_European_countries_by_...


Good question!

There absolutely is nepotism in the political sphere in every political system - but that's not what students are opposed about alone.

Basically, every government job (teacher, doctor, tax collector, bureaucrat, bus driver, etc), government funded service (college, hospital, etc), and PSU (eg. govt owned banks, energy companies, factories) will have a quota in favor of those who are the descendants of martyrs from the 1971 Liberation War.

It's the equivalent of party apparatchiks and elite in Ceceascu era Romania who had the pick of the litter for high paying civil service and public sector jobs.

This does not happen in developed countries, and in situations where biased hiring is found, you have a slam dunk corruption case.

There's a reason Leyen became a party politician and not a nameless civil servant.

> Where the hell did you get 6000 USD/year

From the Romanian government press release I linked - "The total monthly average income*) was, in nominal terms, 6634 lei per household and 2648 lei per person in quarter IV 2022."

Multiply that number by 4 (because it's quarters not month) and that the yearly average income.

Edit:

Good catch - I misread the data. Average income PER PERSON is around $6,000. Average HOUSEHOLD is around $12,000.

I still stand by my assertion though, because Mexico's average household income is around $12,000-15,000.

Can't reply to you OP (I think the flame war detector got a false positive) but yea you are right that the numbers I gave were wrong so I've added edit comments.

I don't use LLMs btw. I inherently distrust them. I just have these numbers imprinted in my mind because I have no life.


>This does not happen in developed countries

Yeah it does.

>and in situations where biased hiring is found, you have a slam dunk corruption case.

Except when you don't because that's what corruption does. Should I start listing every major German and Austrian corruption scandal where nobody got punished off the top of my head?

>From the Romanian government press release I linked - The total monthly average income) was, in nominal terms, 6634 lei per household and 2648 lei per person in quarter IV 2022.*

That's not at all what that document says. It explicitly and clearly says those numbers are for monthly wages with info gathered in a quarter. Are you using a LLM for this? Because you're wrong, I show you that you're wrong, yet keep doubling down on your mistakes. Check other sources too and you'll see.


Can reply to you now (or maybe actually working on a Friday helps).

I edited my response to take your VALID critiques into account. I appreciate it - we need to keep all of us internet commentators honest.




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