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Years ago I was talking about exactly this issue and how the U.S. is producing far too many degrees than the market can receive. As usual the truth is ignored in favor of a comfortable lie, at the cost of others lives.

Don't go to university. Their value is no longer what it used to be, and they have figured out how to suppress students under a thousand pounds of administrative grift.

We need to strip all public funding going into universities to force the bad ones to go out of business. Industry will fund their own education, or they don't deserve it.



Don't go to university if you don't actually like CS but are just going into it for the money or are going into a career trajectory that doesn't require knowing CS, which is more than 80% of the industry. The knowledge university provides is priceless to those who need it but you aren't among them. You are also in the category that, if it ever happens, is most easily replaced by LLMs because there's an enormous corpus of training data for boilerplate tasks.

Do go to university if you're interested in CS and programming itself and would have been even if it paid poorly or you're intending to hold out for jobs that make use of CS knowledge, like FAANG, platform companies, or other hard tech companies. Should hard times occur and you need a job in a hurry, you're also much better equipped to outcompete one of the people in the former category for one of their jobs.


As much bad rep as schools get nowadays, if you get into a good university (think of top 50 in the world), it will open up a lot of doors for you. Very anecdotal, but I have open offers from people whom I know from uni years. Connections matter, especially in bad market days. Everything else (bootcamps, diploma mills and etc.) are just noise though, I would say it’s not worth the money.

It’s also easy for me to say, as I have about 10 YOE, but I would still prefer a candidate who went to a rigorous school. Mostly because it’s an indicator that they can figure out and learn whatever is needed.


It's also a great indicator of a wealthy upbringing, if you're optimizing for that sort of thing.


People don't realize that in just the last 5 years admins have seized control of uni's, doubling costs across the board and have put it all onto the students.

It is no longer possible to get a degree without parents paying for it while you're paying on private loans while being rejected for few scholarships while being rejected from training and working in your field of study.

Student drug abuse and suicide rates are skyrocketing while opportunities to apply their study are gone.

It's time to remove these systems, they are predatory and don't work any more.




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