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> A 45 yr old grandparent is an able-bodied helper. A 65 yr old is a dependent....

What are you even talking about? My mother's parents were 74 and 76 when I was born and they were routinely my caregivers several times a week (while my parents were working) until I was about 6, and occasionally after that. That wouldn't work in every family, but the idea that "a 65 yr old is a dependent" is utterly unfounded as a general rule.



> the idea that "a 65 yr old is a dependent" is utterly unfounded as a general rule.

They're either dependent, or able-bodied, or dead. Not sure what the relative percentages are, but I doubt that "able-bodied and healthy enough to provide ongoing childcare for grandkids" is the majority here.

Looking at my area (urban Poland) there's a matter of urbanization as well - plenty of parents in the cities are first-generation city dwellers; their parents live in the countryside. The logistics (and CoL in cities, as GP noted), makes involving grandparents on regular basis prohibitively expensive.

N=1 in my case, we have one grandmother in the city, still professionally active (so limited time), and two grandparents retired and self-supporting, but living far away in the countryside (so unable to help most of the time).


Of my kids’ four grandparents, one recently died, one is massively obese and in a wheelchair, one is lazy, and one is able and willing to help. All are mid sixties to 71.


An anecdote doesn't disprove a general rule.


Anecdote? Look up employment stats in any relatively old country, you’ll find that a significant portion of 65 year olds are still in the workforce. Calling them dependents is ridiculous. And in Asian American immigrant circles, 60+ yr old grandparents taking care of young children is basically the norm.


Does the data support the "general rule" then? I think 65 year olds today are much more able than 65 year olds 50 years ago.




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