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That’s kinda what the state does though. Any law is gonna be forcing someone to do (or not do) something.


The deal with the state is in principle the following:

1. If you have a conflict with some other person/family/clan the buck needs to stop somewhere otherwise you just swap murders back and forth indefinitely

2. Having the buck stop with another (third?) person/family/clan is unaccaptable to most persons/families/clans, why would you voluntarily yield power to them?

3. Having learnd from centuries of bloodshed and oppression you develop a system where you can collectively decide on with whom the buck stops and more important: a system where you can remove someone if you are collectively unhappy with their performance in that position.

Now there are a myriad possible ways of doing 3, with some of them tracking the collective will more closely than others, with different definitions of who is included in the collective, with different ways of persisting certain elements through the power transition etc. But anybody who knows about history and politics knows that without that you will even have more chaotic, violent and oppressive circumstances. Unless you happen to be in the clan that is currently in power and you happen to have no war and/or bloody throne-fight during your life.


The basic rule I think of it that everything must be voluntary, and well-informed, except in self-defence.

You can't force people, you can't trick people, unless it's self-defence, then all bets are off.

I think the State to the extent it adheres to this acts justly, and to the extent it does not, does not.

So when I say that forcing others to do what you want generally ends badly, I mean that but taking this rule into account.


Except the taxman doesn’t care what you think.


Especially in countries with housing taxes (you pay based on where you live, independently of how much you earn or wether or not you earn anything) and property tax (based on an estimated value of what is owned, independently of any revenue).

In some places, it would almost seem merely existing is ground enough for taxes.


He does care if enough people point their guns at him, and indeed America was founded on people taking up arms against the taxman.


> America was founded on people taking up arms against the taxman [while lacking political enfranchisement].

The second half of the slogan "no taxation without representation" is not a minor detail. In fact the Tea Act [0] —which motivated the Boston Tea Party protests, to which the British government's escalation in response eventually led to the American Revolution— was not an act establishing or increasing any tax. On the contrary, the Tea Act was actually reducing taxes and duties on tea!

The idea that the American Revolution was triggered by "taxation" shouldn't be retconned under modern eyes into believing that the colonists were against the idea of taxation.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_Act


So Trump supporters attacking Capitol are justified? This is not how democracy is expected to work.


And now?


It could still happen again in America if enough people get pissed off enough to act.


Uh huh. Is that what you tell the IRS?




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