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It's pretty rad to see! I think my next laptop is going to have to be a Framework, once I can afford it ahaha

This 2015 Macbook Pro is getting rather dated.



I got an Intel 13 a few months ago, and I'm very happy with it (I'm using Arch Linux on it). I'm also happy to see news like this, other companies buying into the ecosystem.

The only suggestion I'd make is to get the upgraded screen (sorry, even more expensive). The default screen is OK, but it has a fairly distracting "dot pattern" over it in certain lights that I wish wasn't there, and the lower resolution is tough to go back to after using high-dpi displays. I'll probably get the upgraded screen at some point, but it's tough to justify buying a new screen for a brand-new laptop. Wish it had been available when I bought it, but that's life sometimes :)


I ended up with a preorder for the new screen instead of getting a laptop now and the upgraded screen later. Before making that call, I explored a bit around up-cycling the original monitor into a portable display. There are apparently some boards that allow this, if that helps with your math.


like into a portable monitor?


> once I can afford it ahaha

The one downside to Framework is that they're nice laptops and (precisely because they're repairable and upgradable) they hold value really well... which means the second-hand market exists but isn't an easy way to score dirt cheap hardware. I can drop $200 on eBay and get a good thinkpad; I can't get any Framework anywhere close to that.


A potential problem for the used market is that, as people upgrade individual components, they are left with used individual components, which are potentially harder to sell than an entire laptop. And as, so far, the major component upgrades have been of the mainboards, it seems like there could be a glut of those, while it seems possible that a used chassis may never be easily available.

As more component upgrades other than motherboards become available, however, it may be that a more useful used market could develop. And it may be that building a 'used' laptop may end up usually involving buying a few new parts. For example, having, over time, upgraded the top cover, hinges, mainboard, battery, wifi card, RAM, and SSD, if I upgrade the display and camera with the soon-to-be-available new modules, I think someone could build a full laptop with my old parts, a bottom cover kit, an input cover, and some fasteners; it may be that the bottom cover (and fasteners) are the only parts there that would need to be purchased new, as I expect other people have replaced input covers (some of my keycaps are starting to degrade, but they actually degrade rather gracefully)

But still, this would be more complex than simply buying a used laptop, and would need a marketplace for all of those parts. I know there was some discussion from Framework hoping someday to facilitate a used component market; that seems like it would be challenging, but on the other hand, Framework seems to have been steadily, actually pursuing the goals they have laid out.


It's no different to desktops IMHO. The used market on parts is quite healthy.


Eventually it should be possible to get the expensive components secondhand at good prices. It would be cool if Framework started selling a bare-bones kit where you could add your own mainboard, screen, etc. That should be possible to do now by buying parts individually, but I don't think it would be a good experience (or cost-effective).

Framework does sell factory seconds for as low as $500 right now, though they need a few more components to be functional.


> It would be cool if Framework started selling a bare-bones kit where you could add your own mainboard, screen, etc.

I'd second this idea. Could be doable by just making every component in the DIY edition optional during configuration, though I don't know how much that'd impact their current manufacturing flow (given that even the DIY edition laptops are mostly preassembled).




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