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no, of course not


I dont see why that's obvious.


many new chips don't even have non-chinese datasheets


You're making a probabilistic argument against the existence of an American made (or designed) equivalent to a Wifi+MCU module on a chip?


how is america in any way relevant here? we were discussing china

you might be able to find american-designed (or european-designed, african-designed, antarctica-designed, etc.) chips that do something similar, but you can be pretty sure they will be made either in taiwan or in the rest of china

in a now-deleted response to this comment, you asked, 'How is it relevant in the thread I started by asking for american designed chips?'

you didn't ask for american-designed chips. you asked for non-chinese chips, but many chinese chips are american-designed (in some sense, all of them, since transistors and integrated circuits are both american inventions). literally what you said was

> Is there a non-Chinese equivalent of ESP that compares in terms of module integration re: Wifi et al? (but perhaps not cost)

i just went back to see if you'd edited your comment, but no, that's literally what you said, byte for byte


That's very helpful.




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