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already, Disney has been censoring past episodes not even based on today's sensibilities but it seems purely based on keywords.

there's an episode of the suite life of zach and cody where zach pretends to have dyslexia in order to get extra time in his exams, and near the end of the episode he gets busted and they have a thoughtful conversation about how it's unfair and hurts the people who need the extra time, and he should be less lazy and do the work, etc, and somehow that's too offensive now.



Disney is only slightly better about nuking old “offensive” content than other providers. Many times they just gave an unskippable “this is culturally offensive to some” text and call it good. For example the old lady and the tramp has that “we are Siamese” song, which I guess is offensive… at least they still let you watch it.

Hulu on the other hand just pulls shit. For example they pulled my favorite it’s always sunny episode where they do that diehard movie. I guess the fact they do black face makes it racist (which they call out as such in the show itself!) and since we are all apparently too stupid to think for ourselves about the content we watch they better block it. After all they know better than me about what is offensive.

… shit like that… that is what is gonna lead me back to piracy.


I guess that means Hulu doesn't have Tropic Thunder?


in the case I mentioned, the episode "smarter and smarterer" just went down the memory hole, it's like it was never there.


The creators of always sunny pulled that themselves just fyi. They decided as artists that they weren’t cool with it and I think that is their right as creators, personally.


I believe the opposite on this actually. You may be the creator of something, but once you've shown it to me, it becomes the property of the human race. Something our species has done and enjoyed (or hated). You have no right to erase it from existence. You could make a big speech about how bad it was, put a warning at the start, etc, but removing it entirely from existence is just vandalism. Imagine if the Pharaohs decided to blow up the pyramids after they built them!


My hope is human nature will prevail. SOME are that sensitive but I think there’s a growing amount of people maybe even a majority that don’t want censorship and nannie’s in media / comedy etc.


What’s offensive changes from generation to generation. Blackface is a problem because racism is a problem. I can envision a future where racism against blacks is so low that blackface in itself is no longer triggering.

As an example: I grew up in the 60’s and 70’s with the feminist second wave. Women of my generation hated being called girl, for good reason! In that time, men were men, and women were considered children.

Their granddaughters don’t seem to mind the term girl at all. They didn’t suffer the same trauma their grandmothers did. Society has progressed, at least a bit.


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People don't like to be discriminated against based on their skin color or gender so there is always going to be resistance against bigots like you, who justify and rationalize the discrimination. There has been some progress as evident by the fact that your racist beliefs are already a relatively fringe minority. Even people like you changed, you no longer advocate for slavery or colonialism and probably don't support lynchings, murdering gay people or banning women's right to vote, to understand social change in your case you just have to shift your timeframe by a hundred years or so. You will be dragged along into the future or die, that's how social progress happens, older bigots die off and are replaced by slightly less racist bigots. Overall, slowly progress will be made.


> People don't like to be discriminated against based on their skin color or gender

Sure, but they do like to discriminate against others based on their skin color or gender. Race and gender-gated policies are everywhere today.


people in the majority/oppressor groups have always defended themselves like this, slavers saw themselves as the victims with black people stealing their livelihood, increases in womens rights or levels of education is seen as taking something away from men/boys... equal opportunity and affirmative action has always been seen as discriminatory instead of the necessary corrective uplifting of historically oppressed groups. White people are forced to share a bathroom with black people, cis people are forced to share a bathroom with trans people, etc. Always conservatives predicted the end of society as we know it, it was never true, nothing bad ever came of society becoming more progressive and less oppressive against minority groups.

The patterns are obvious and the future is clear, it's obvious who is going to be on the wrong side of history. There is no place for social regressive conservatism in a free and open society, that doesn't mean you are being oppressed not matter how convenient of an idea that victim complex is, society at large will progress, with or without you and there is nothing you can do about it.


As expected, the typical currently popular racist and sexist rhetoric dressed up in pretty words.


Considering the demographics I find it hilarious that you believe that current perceived discrimination is the result of a majority. Because if there is one thing that's for sure, it's that the white person is a race in extinction considering the fertility levels that do not beat the replacement rate in pretty much every single western country.

And you clearly don't understand much about what you are talking about. The fact is that society as we know it is clearly going away, precisely because the fertility level is so abysmal that at this rate in two generations the genetic heritage that built all this world of freedom will be extinguished.

There is actually a trend of "strong women" going out of their way to bring around men from foreign countries to mate and create a family, precisely because of all the problems the social propaganda has created. Another society will perdure that's for sure, but it definitely won't be the same and the more time passe the more it looks like the replacement won't be as nice and open to liberties as what it replaced.

I don't even care, this is what happens when a culture gets too complacent, it gets overthrown and replaced by a stronger competitor. Now the question is: will it be better? So far, I fear the signs are not in favor of this conclusion, but we will see...


All these feelings and emotions of great anxiety and fear of getting replaced by the "inferior" other, its so primitive. Just like these ideas of the "strong" dominating over "us" because we became "weak". It's such a primitive way of looking at the world.

How do you think people felt that opposed social progress in the past? They felt exactly like you are feeling, but you don't agree with them now do you? Everything you say is derived from those base emotions, but it's all just in your head. You don't have to fear people who are different from you, they are all just people, we are all the same, we are all the same species, race, gender, sexuality, religion, language; it's all unimportant, we all just want to live happy lives in peace. Anyway


It's not discrimination when it's based on objective reality. But I guess you are one of those who will call discrimination when someone doesn't make the cut because they weren't good enough, whether it is in sport performance or intellectual capacity or anything else for that matter.

We are still hearing about discrimination of women in STEM subjects when not only they have the same exact opportunities but we reworked a lot of the education system to accommodate them in preference.

We can never win with your type because there is no logic, it's all about the feelings and emotions that uncomfortable truths create.

And nice trying on the racist insult, I fundamentally don't think there is a superior race or whatever, just that there are objectively different genetic heritages that are better at some things (and vice versa). It's the same thing for women, men are not able to make other humans, that's an objective truth. Either you take advantage of that and assign different things to do depending on actual relative strength of peoples or you put your head in the sand, makes everyone go through meaningless competition that bring about the same results, just less efficiently and with way more casualties than necessary. People are complementary, you can't have the smart ones doing masonry while the strong ones doing architecture, that's just stupidly inefficient and a sure way of creating problems in the long run...

And to be clear, I strongly believe in the equality of opportunities as well as equality in laws but that doesn't mean you have to engineer a whole system against "discriminations"; it won't work no matter how much you believe.




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