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Put another way, add "poor hardware support" to the list of reasons not to use Linux.



Poor support for new hardware, yes. Every OS is a series of tradeoffs (Linux lags in new hardware and commercial software, Darwin supports less hardware than any other major OS, NT views the user as the product); you have to decide if the advantages or disadvantages matter more.


Obviously, it's a matter of trade-offs. However, these trade-offs aren't written in stone. If Linux lags in hardware, new or old, that is in part itself a trade-off made by its developers, and if those developers want more people to use Linux, perhaps a change in their priorities would make that more likely. Devote less time to polishing new graphical installers so that Bluetooth is rock solid on more hardware, and maybe more people will use Linux. Or, maybe they won't. That's for the market to decide. But, clearly there are market participants (some of them in this thread) who wish hardware support had a higher priority than it does. Make of that what you will.


> Devote less time to polishing new graphical installers so that Bluetooth is rock solid on more hardware, and maybe more people will use Linux.

I can't imagine that there is any meaningful overlap between people capable of polishing install wizards (UX-centric userspace applications) and dealing with BT (kernel code and plumbing daemons), so it's not really a trade.

> But, clearly there are market participants (some of them in this thread) who wish hardware support had a higher priority than it does. Make of that what you will.

Are those market participants willing to pay for that work, in cash or code? TANSTAAFL.


> Are those market participants willing to pay for that work, in cash or code? TANSTAAFL.

Is Ubuntu demanding they pay for that work in cash or code? Obviously not, since Ubuntu generally offers it for free. You think they do that out of the goodness of their hearts? I don't. I think they benefit from people using their software even for free, otherwise they wouldn't do it. Whatever that benefit is, they'll get less of it if people reject their software because Bluetooth sucks (for example). Suppose that gives them incentive to do something about it. Then what's the problem? Sounds like an efficient market interaction to me.

> I can't imagine that there is any meaningful overlap between people capable of polishing install wizards (UX-centric userspace applications) and dealing with BT (kernel code and plumbing daemons), so it's not really a trade.

Ubuntu pays developers. The more they pay one kind of developer the less they're able to pay other kinds of developers. So yeah. That really is a trade-off for Ubuntu.


Or put another way and say, put poor linux support as a reason to not use certain hardware.


Sure, unless you've already purchased the hardware, or had it purchased for you outside of your control.

All I'm saying is, if the the Linux developers made a better product, probably more people would use it. That is entirely independent of the fact that you can say the same thing about the hardware manufacturers.




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