Has the UK become a libertarian paradise lately, without we noticing? This is happening in a social-democracy, to a public good owned by the state. And yet you put the blame on libertarians!
The company dumping sewage is doing it to the sea/rivers, not in private areas like a private swimming pool. Because they will be sued, and lose, if they did. The libertarian solution to this is "make the waters private".
Anecdotally, in the begginings of the industrial revolution, some laundries sued some coal companies in UK for polluting the air and getting the clothes put to dry dirty againg. They won, so the coal companies lobbied the government for permission to emit ashes and smoke freely. The government obliged, allegedly in the name of progress. So when you ask yourself "what is the libertarian solution for this", ask first "is this a problem caused by the state action or inaction?" If the answer is "yes", you already have the answer to your first question.
I haven't put any blame, just curious how a libertarian solve the issue as a thought experiment. Maybe there's an angle I haven't thought of.
The "make the waters private" doesn't solve the problem of making the waters private if you haven't made the waters private before you want to swim.
If you are going to purchase everything you need to live a life, this will quickly spiral into socialism with capitalist titles because you will need someone to manage all that so you can do stuff you actually care for. Someone will come up with a package that sorts things out for a subscription, you will just have your taxes called monthly subscription fees and the unelected officials will be called managers or CEO or something. Then they will reduce service quality since it would be very hard for you to simply switch to other providers if you are not happy(they will optimize for profit once the growth slows). Then the management will start selling access to you, for example if someone want to do taxi services to subscribers like you, they will have to pay a fee to the management.
Honestly, IMHO this is not even socialism but just communism with different accounting formula and labels.
You were "curious" and not blaming but quick to downvote. Good way of showing curiosity.
If I understand you correctly, you are saying that the state allowed the pollution of a public owned area, and now you want a libertarian working solution after the fact. How does that make sense? The libertarian solution is, as I said, make the waters private. The owner will immediately sue the pollutant, to at least stop dumping waste. Reminder that the state is doing nothing at all.
Is anyone dumping thrash in your privately owned house? Why is that? Please, point me a privately owned area were someone who is not the owner openly and freely thrash the place without consequences.
The horse shit issue went away thanks to a change in technology which replaced a visible issue with a less visible one.
Today, as a consequence of industry, the air is polluted, perhaps if someone "owned" the atmosphere?
Today, as a consequence fo fossil fuel usage, the mean tempreture is rising like a slow train wreck - with consequences beginning now and increasing with time.
An efficient system would have addressed and averted these problems when first highlighted in the 1970s rather than allow Koch et al to hire tobacco apologist media companies and think tanks to spred climate FUD for decades.
Early action, early pivoting to renewable development and small more efficient vehicles would have been magnitudes cheaper and more productive in the long term than kicking the can down through time for 50 years while the problem grew and spread to other economies.
> You were "curious" and not blaming but quick to downvote. Good way of showing curiosity.
I can’t downvote your direct replies to me, just as you can’t downvote mine.
Anyway, since the government screwed up on this one they can be replaced on the next election. What would be the libertarian solution to shitty beaches?
Move somewhere where the private owners offer clean beaches?
What if they have clean beaches but no need for your services? Maybe they are bunch of hippies.
Nobody said this was the result of libertarianism, nor that libertarianism is bad. The poster you replied to cannot downvote you, but others here watching your behavior can. Dial back the accusations, you're being unnecessarily aggressive defending a point which didn't need defense because it wasn't being attacked.
The company dumping sewage is doing it to the sea/rivers, not in private areas like a private swimming pool. Because they will be sued, and lose, if they did. The libertarian solution to this is "make the waters private".
Anecdotally, in the begginings of the industrial revolution, some laundries sued some coal companies in UK for polluting the air and getting the clothes put to dry dirty againg. They won, so the coal companies lobbied the government for permission to emit ashes and smoke freely. The government obliged, allegedly in the name of progress. So when you ask yourself "what is the libertarian solution for this", ask first "is this a problem caused by the state action or inaction?" If the answer is "yes", you already have the answer to your first question.