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I think instead the train ride is too expensive.

Id rather have the train ride cost be lowered. Its too high now. Have you factored the price of riding late to work? Or maybe new clothes due to a car with a homeless stink that wont go ? What about the cost of a hospital bill after getting sucker punched in the face?

Sorry. Train is too expensive. Driving is irrelevant.



> What about the cost of a hospital bill after getting sucker punched in the face?

I'd be very surprised if the risk of an expensive injury wasn't significantly when higher driving vs. taking the train. Surely driving must be riskier? It's one of the riskiest things modern humans do. Maybe the NYC traffic is bad enough that you're never going a dangerous speed?


A brief search came up with trains being around 15-20x safer than driving. As with many things it matters a lot how you count but it’s a pretty huge gap.


Your brief search is meaningless unless you take a subway line through the Bronx daily.

Statistics will not capture 10% of the harrasment people put up with daily.

New yorkers have some massive Stockton Syndrome with what they are used to. Some will argue that if you complain about human feces on the train, maybe you should go back to Ohio, I see it daily.


What about subway lines in the Bronx?

As someone who lives & works in the Bronx, I haven't encountered any harassment in the Bronx lines. Pretty much every negative experience I've had on any subway line has been in Manhattan.


> Maybe the NYC traffic is bad enough that you're never going a dangerous speed?

Inside Manhattan this is almost certainly true. In a modern car you're going to walk away from almost all crashes under about 40 mph.


The pedestrian not so much, though.


A pedestrian just had they're legs ran over 2 weeks ago by a subway train because they go pushed on the tracks.

Maybe that is a 1/1000000 shot, but it is MUCH more horrifying than thinking about getting in a car crash at 40 mph.


You've heard about a pedestrian who you don't even know had an accident and determine its too unsafe.

Meanwhile I personally know multiple people who died, mangled in a car after an accident. I know multiple people who have survived but were in bad accidents where at least one person was injured. I know multiple people who were pedestrians and cyclists who were properly using the streets and were hit by cars requiring hospital visits, and indirectly know of several people who have died being legally in the right cycling on the streets.

You're way more likely to be seriously harmed or killed even just being around a car than you are riding a train or subway.




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