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Montreal isn't the only city that failed with a too-far-away airport. Tokyo built Narita against much local opposition (they still check your ID before you're allowed inside the airport, to make sure you're not an angry local resident), and the opposition resulted in not being able to build the transport link they wanted (the Narita Shinkansen). The result is a good hour wasted on conventional rail to get to Tokyo. (Sky Access kind of fixed this, but I think it's limited to 160km/h and still takes 40 minutes.)

Meanwhile, in the 2010s they expanded Haneda and started accepting international flights, and you can get to Tokyo via a variety of normal trains (and buses if your destination is on the Shinjuku side of things) in 15 minutes.

The whole thing is landfill, so no residents to be mad either.

Last time I flew to Haneda they made all the flights from the US arrive and depart at times when public transportation wasn't running, to discourage those flights, but it seems like they stopped doing that. So now it's more convenient for everyone, and Narita is largely pointless for everyone that isn't an extreme budget traveler (but I think Haneda built Terminal 3 for that use case... so... is there any reason for Narita to exist if you aren't visiting Chiba?)



Arlanda feels like another good example of a "far out" (23 mi) airport that works pretty damn well. 18 minutes on the train.


Arlanda is my favorite major-city airport. I'm not as well-traveled as many, but I've been to dozens and it's my favorite. I've transited between Stockholm, Norrtalje, and the airport in bus, tax, and train, with each being the easiest experience I've had with that respective form of transit.


Zurich Airport was much better for me, a few minutes to Zurich by train and they go every few minutes and tickets are cheap since those are the commuter trains. No need to plan, just go to the train station and hop on the first train and you are there in less than 10 minutes.

It really blew my mind when I first visited, I never thought getting to a major international airport could be that convenient. Swiss transit is so well designed.


Copenhagen is as good if not better than both, at least accounting for the population being double that of Zurich.

Metro and commuter trains run all day and all night (the trains also go to Malmø in Sweden).

Long distance trains go all the way across Denmark and as far as Gothenburg in Sweden, although there are very few been midnight at 4am.


Haneda is bigger, but not big enough to take on Narita’s 2019 42 million additional pax.

Most large cities have more than one airport anyways. London has like six, New York has three, Beijing has two, etc.


What's the issue with 40-60 mins on a train to the city center? That seems very reasonable (and common) to me.


I had to laugh out. The Japanese do not like the American tourists?


more like, Narita cost a lot of money to build, and the smart money if allowed to would just flood Haneda with as many flights as possible and leave Narita an empty husk.

Putting more restrictions on Haneda allows Narita to not be a totally useless airport.


Eh, I get all that, but Narita is still quite useful as a transfer hub for passengers traveling between North America and East Asia. Haneda’s gate capacity is also a limiting factor, Narita is a necessary companion airport to soak up excess passenger demand.




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