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I love how whenever Apple makes a clearly anti-trust move it's always about privacy.

That would be true, if Apple couldn't literally write any TOS they want that allows other App stores or billing methods and then add "but you can't include tracking that invades our users privacy or resell their data".

That's just as enforceable on their end, and not anti-competitive, assuming Apple themselves don't launch their own ad platform and tracking...



> I love how whenever Apple makes a clearly anti-trust move it's always about privacy.

Who else is going to care about privacy though?

For the payment situation for example, Apple Pay (and Google Pay) use EMV Tokenization so that your actual credit card number is obfuscated:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Pay#Technology

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Pay_(payment_method)#Te...

Credit card numbers are used by retailers to data mine their customers:

* https://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2012/02/16/how-targ...


> For the payment situation for example, Apple Pay (and Google Pay) use EMV Tokenization so that your actual credit card number is obfuscated

As does Samsung Pay. As could any number of tap to pay providers, if Apple would let them on iOS.


Actually Samsung Pay for the longest time supported MST which was not secure and supported transmission of payment credentials that could be intercepted by a MITM.


Apple having access to everything related to end user, every step they can take regarding privacy can be deemed as anti-competitive.

Here’s another example: Facebook knows exactly the 100 people they show my ads but not giving me their full name, relationship status, list of friends, their gender, sexual orientation, etc.


> Apple having access to everything related to end user, every step they can take regarding privacy can be deemed as anti-competitive.

But does Apple have access to things? Or do they (sometimes?) design things so that even they don't have the information?

A lot of the time they do things 'on device'.


Agreed. And that’s something I very much enjoy.

My general worry is that the entire discussion is shifting “from what’s good for the customer to this other company cannot do something shady because you protect the customer”.

Does Apple enjoy this gatekeeping practice? Of course they do, but so does Google with Android and they abuse the crap out of it.


Google's also being sued for their antitrust actions, so they're not above reproach here either.


If I care about my privacy, I much prefer the world where Apple just restricts APIs/integrations that are harmful to it than that they have to employ armies of lawyers and auditors to go after TOS violations after the fact.


They are more than free to restrict any APIs/integrations they want, as long as these restrictions apply to their own apps as well.


It’s much easier to identify and detect an app that does multiple things than identify trackings across multiple parts of an app.




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