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Isn’t Nokia also Chinese though?


Uh, no, it's Finnish through and through.


They acquired Alcatel-Lucent so while a Finnish company they also have significant R&D in Europe and US. For instance the "Bell Labs" is now Nokia.


My bad, I thought HMD was Chinese just based on abysmally bad quality of the phones they manufacture. Surprised to see this from a former leader. My first cell phone was made by Nokia, it was absolutely rock solid.


Are their phones that bad? I have never bought any of their flagships (typing this on an X30), but I've found that the phones are excellent for their price point, plus they put pure Android on them, which is quite rare these days for non-Pixel phones.


My previous phone was a Nokia. Worst phone I've ever owned.

Sometimes unlocking it would take 10 seconds before I could use it. Showing the keyboard would take a couple of seconds. It would freeze randomly. Etc.

The only good thing about it was that it used stock Android.

After a couple of months I ended up switching to a similarity priced Motorola. Night and day difference. It's close to stock Android and the only big drawback is the Moto lock screen.


Random freezing sounds more like a software problem than a hardware problem.

Caused by the stock Android you praise? Or where does get HMD the hardware-adaption layer from? To my understanding (no inside knowledge) they have zero own development.


I've happily switched from Nokia to Samsung and so many niggles were gone. I couldn't imagine a Samsung PM seeing Android alarm and go "lets just allow alarms to blare till the speakers breaks loose, Google's snooze settings belongs on a spaceship"


I guess it depends on the person. I have a Samsung tablet, and would rather it was running the stock Android launcher. I also detest that there are (Samsung or otherwise) apps on there I do not want to use and cannot uninstall.


HMD is also Finnish, and a completely different company than Nokia.


Nokia quietly fired big chunk of their China workforce over last few years.


What kind of workforce? Engineering, manufacturing or sales & service?


Engineering, meaning R&D and support.




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