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> Serious Communist China ended with everyone starving

This is certainly a claim, let's see how it stands up against the historical record (as from wiki): 1961: Last famine in the PRC 1966: Start of the Cultural Revolution 1976: Mao dies

I'm having a bit of trouble reconciling these, but if you've got some arguments explaining why the Cultural Revolution was after the end of "Serious Communist China" I'd be interested.



I agree. Communes were only privatised in the early 1980s, and I think that is a better marker for the end of communism in China.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_responsibility_syste...




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