He’s right, people who always talk about they don’t use sites that require Javacript adds about as much to the conversation as people who show up in television conversations and say “I haven’t owned a television in 20 years, do people still watch TV?”
If we stick with that analogy, then since HN requires no Javascript,
it's more like we're having a discussion on a radio show, and I am
saying "I don't really watch much TV", no?
What I hear is that Javascript is a means of speed and power to
you. And for you, forgoing that power would serve no useful
purpose. Do I understand that correctly?
What I am wondering is, do you think that for other people, they
should, maybe even must, feel the same way? Even if they are very
pleased just listening to the radio?
Of course. What I do not want or need is code that's been part of the
web since about 2016-2020, which is arbitrary code execution by
complete strangers. Not even in a sandboxed disposable web browser.
Now I suspect you'll want to tell me how actually Javascript is
perfectly safe... and that's a conversation we can save for another
day for the sake of both our dignity and friendship. I'm afraid it's
my job to know otherwise.
If you knew about that many exploits in the wild, surely you could (white hat) tell the company who created the browser or (black hat) make a lot of money by selling it to three letter agencies or private companies that sell it to three letter agencies.
However, in the real world, a fully patched Android or iOS operating system - especially one that is in “lock down mode” is not any more susceptible to
Zero day exploits than the number of other exploitable parts of the OS that you also don’t have any control over.
And even if you only run open source software, how long was the OpenSSL bug in operating systems before it was discovered?
Do you use your mobile’s messaging system? That’s been one of the primary targets of exploits that will target you directly.
I appreciate your sincere and sweet overtures scarface, but I'm just
not that kinda javascript girl. You're right though, everything out
there is riddled with holes. Let's not give up though.
I'm intellectually curious, what you're so deeply invested in that was just threatened?