In other words, the way programming languages are marketed matters.

michaelneale · on Dec 4, 2008

And fashion, lets not forget the fashion. What's this seasons colour?

silentbicycle · on Dec 4, 2008

I'm not just being glib. The computer industry is extraordinarily buzzword-driven.

For a good summary, watch Steve Yegge's presentation, "How to Ignore Marketing and Become Irrelevant in Two Easy Steps". (http://blip.tv/file/319044/)

michaelneale · on Dec 5, 2008

neither am I - and I totally agree. I just don't think its marketing - its more fashion (I wouldn't really expect Steve to understand marketing, very few do).

Marketing is often what developers brush off as "the other stuff" without really understanding it.

silentbicycle · on Dec 5, 2008

> Marketing is often what developers brush off as "the other stuff" without really understanding it.

Agreed. Trying to convince programmers to not write it off entirely (such as in the presentation) is a step in the right direction.

FWIW, I think a few languages (Python, for one) have actually been marketed reasonably well.