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I have finally a disconnect between investor expectations and the reality of shipping prototypes with php that I wonder if anyone else has seen?

One recent raise that I was talking a new entrepreneur through had the investor take a hard pass as soon as they found out he was building with Laravel.

This isn’t the first time but in the past it was suspicion and wasn’t so explicit. They literally passed on giving a term sheet specifically because they were built in laravel… so I finally got someone “on the record.”

I have built startups with PHP and had great success, though I use a lot of platforms now and not as much php anymore, but I wonder if there is any issue with the raise.

I know the technicals (and how dumb it was, the first version gets trashed always anyways) but I wonder if others have seen this?




PHP has a really bad reputation in the tech world, unfortunately.

I had that wrong idea too until very recently. I realized PHP has progressed a lot better in the last 10 years than JS has because they have the luxury of being able to control the runtime. Unlike the JS world that has to use TS as a crutch because browsers are evolving so slowly.


Indeed. Every time I do work on a recent javascript framework I find myself crying into my coffee because of all the (what feels like) needless complexities. Svelte is pretty good though. Still love me some python, go, rust and laravel though.




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