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The argument around tipping grates for me.

The author is saying that the companies don’t pay him enough so I should tip to compensate.

This will actually make things worse, as I will then be artificially propping up a broken market.

A better solution would be for nobody to tip. At this point, all the drivers would quit because the pay is too low, so the companies would be forced to raise it to a level where they can attract drivers.




Yeah - I don’t use food delivery apps because of the wage/tipping issue. My wife HATES that I go and collect food myself but I just feel too anxious navigating the exploitation in the sector.


Same, never used a food delivery service, nor an Uber.

I'm in France and they're obviously trying to cirmcumvent labor law, they're not independent workers, they're often dependent on a single service that watches every single movement they do, punishes them for not following instructions, so they should have a salary, regular employment by the platform, not contracts.

I'll wait, in the meantime, I can go myself to fetch my food, or cook at home! Or purchase from takehome-first restaurants with employed drivers.


Why on earth would this bother her??? It also saves tons of money. I downloaded a delivery app, saw how much more it would cost, and have never used one again.


Sometimes people just prefer you to do the easier thing rather than take off for 30 minutes in a busy household with kids.


You just described all tipping.

It is a horribly broken way of doing things that feels terribly dirty to someone that wasn’t indoctrinated since birth.

Every time I see tipping and the behaviour, I can’t help thinking it’s a bunch of people with money who waive it at people who don’t while saying “be at my beck and call and I’ll give you some. Or not. But still dance for me”

Obviously the people with the money like it because they have an entire class of society dancing for them whenever they please


That's why I never order through delivery website. Either the restaurant has their own delivery service with a standard employee, either I take out.


"If everyone would just"


The way to do this would be for someone (in NYC? SF?) to organise a nationwide Tip Strike Day.

That might bring the shady numbers out into the open.


> A better solution would be for nobody to tip

Would you rather not tip or not use the service?


In my country, no one tips, yet rideshare and food delivery services still exist.

Instead of begging for tips, drivers join a national union and regularly go on strike when a delivery company fails to meet payment expectations. New delivery services typical negotiate a deal with the union first to get drivers, and thus new companies have one less needless marketing expense.

Just don't tip.

It makes no sense for couriers to receive tips based on the price of the package. As far as they should be concerned, a 5$ burger and a 100$ steak are the same thing.

Now that some companies like DoorDash are also branching out and delivering medicines, and it would be preferable if they didn't even know what was inside any package and just charged appropriate by weight, distance, congestion fees for delivery.


A better, better solution would be to stop using the service at all.




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