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You can shoehorn “all stories” into all sorts of frameworks. I personally find this really limits what stories can be and leads to decade after decade of lazy writing done by people who believed these commentators. Eg, heroes journey is actually a bunch of techniques, not just one, and some stories don’t even have characters at all


I think all stories will find themselves in these patterns, but it's important to let the story find the pattern rather than the other way around.

I doubt that the person who came up with the story of Icarus was attempting to do RISE, FALL explicitly.

Although, it's also important to be open to new paradigms. If you believe that there are only two stories: RISE and FALL, you can find yourself stretching metaphors to their breaking point to make stories fit in a box.




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