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Ladder Paradox (wikipedia.org)
17 points by sillysaurusx on Oct 18, 2023 | hide | past | favorite | 5 comments


This is a completely impractical thought experience as usual. If a ladder is launched at your garage at relativistic velocity, it would be best to play it safe and leave the doors open to reduce the chance of a collision - let it pass through and hit your neighbour's house instead.

Also, I chuckled at the "Man falling into grate variation". "A man (represented by a segmented rod)" - very abstract.


> The paradox is resolved when it is considered that in relativity, simultaneity is relative to each observer, making the answer to whether the ladder fits inside the garage also relative to each of them.

So garages are actually variable in size?


Yes, moving towards any object at speed in special relativity will make it seems contracted (shorter along the axis you're moving.). So the observer in the garage will see a contracted ladder. Meanwhile an observer seated on the ladder would see a non contracted ladder, but the garage would be contracted. The trouble of the paradox is of course that the garage does not get larger to allow in the "larger" non contracted ladder. This seemingly breaks what is called the principle of relativity, which is that the laws of physics are the same in all inertial frames of reference. The simultaneity they're discussing is the notion that events that seem simultaneous in one frame of reference, may not seem simultaneous in another frame of reference.

So where the first door would close and the second open at the same time to the garage observer. The second door would open much before the first door closes to the ladder observer.


No, I think the ladder is variable in size:

> a ladder, parallel to the ground, travelling horizontally at relativistic speed (near the speed of light) and therefore undergoing a Lorentz length contraction

From the page on Lorentz length contraction:

> For standard objects, this effect is negligible at everyday speeds, and can be ignored for all regular purposes, only becoming significant as the object approaches the speed of light relative to the observer.

I'm pretty sure this means that one of the observers sees the ladder at the full length, since relative to them the ladder's speed is 0.


I enjoyed the read. Even though i did not understand it fully




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