I respect your desire to downvote me but I respectfullu disagree after signing up and using them.

"Bad HN stuff" is lazy argument. They sell google searches and their value is "we promise". Bad HN stuff is how the HN crowd loves to hate on commercial VPN providers who have the same business model but the Kagi dude speaks and talks like your crowd so you rally around this product.

As if DDG didn't do the same thing for free. ADs were never the problem, the way ads work in search was the problem.

One of the first lessons I learned on the internet is never to trust online services on their word alone and that what you post online (search in this case) is there to stay forever.

You know what made me swtich from indifferent to opposing Kagi? After my trial ended, i kept searching for stuff in my nav bar, historical hits come up and when I select them, boom, Kagi paywall!

That's why my challenge to Kagi is if they ask money for what DDG and like a dozen other competitors offer for free with privacy promises similar to Kagi, then at least offer insurance and put their money where their mouth is if they're going to ask for people's money.

Also, search results after you stop paying shouldn't go back on paywall, you paid already for it!

I commented fully expecting to get downvoted as I do now, but you haven't countered my fairly reasonable assertions.