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> The fine art world, which is typically what people mean by "art"

Maybe in your circle, but that's certainly not the case generally.



Art galleries? The art world? These are pretty universal terms and they refer to the system of museums, art fairs, galleries, etc. that have nothing to do with commercial illustrations.


The book illustrator is an artist who works in publishing, the art gallery painter is an artist who participates in the "fine art" world.

I've never heard these terms used like you are using them.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Art_world

See also: Art Forum. ArtNews. MoMa. The Met. Etc.

I didn’t invent the term.


"Art world" is a term connected to "fine art" not "art" or "artists". That's where we disagree.


>Maybe in your circle, but that's certainly not the case generally.

Great, now that's solved, let's agree on a definition of 'punk' next




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