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Having just returned from both London and Paris -- yes, having the ability to tow my motorboat to the reservoir is awesome! And having the ability to just drive out of the city whenever I want is awesome! And having the ability to get to work in a/c without dressing for the weather is awesome. Traveling around without being in close proximity to sick people is awesome! Having cars, and the infrastructure to support them, is decidedly better in my assessment than relying on an e-bike, mass transit, and rental services. I think most people would agree with me.


I live in London and can do all those things!

Like a decent number of Londoners I own a car. I love my car and I love driving. But I use my car once, maybe twice a month, almost always to leave the city.

I lend it to friends when they need a car too. Many people who don’t own a car use rentals and car clubs for the same things.

So I agree, it’s great to have a car to get out to a lake, beach, or mountain or to transport stuff and people to the countryside, go camping, pick up heavy things, etc.

But that’s a tiny fraction of journeys. My contribution to traffic and pollution is minimal.

I walk or cycle 90% of my journeys within the city and use public transport for almost all of the rest. I regularly take trains to other cities and towns rather than drive.

Do I want a world no cars at all?

Of course not!

Do I want infrastructure, policies, and costs/taxation on car use to reduce the amount of totally unnecessary, selfish car use that makes the city noisier, more dangerous, more polluted, and less pleasant for everyone except the driver, even when there’s a perfectly good walking/cycling/transit alternative for that journey?

Absolutely.


Your argument does not scale. There can never be enough car infrastructure, the more you have the longer you have to drive to get outside the city. Luxury is very much about perception, it is not obviously true that having your own steel cage with a/c is better.

For me living near other people and the rich human culture that comes from that is luxury. If you need a car for that you might just have made other choices in life, they are still choices.


> And having the ability to just drive out of the city whenever I want is awesome!

This is what does it for me. And a rental just doesnt cut it. My family and I enjoy road trips, even just weekend getaways, and owning a vehicle makes that possible. Also, just regular things like getting kids to rowing practice after school makes all alternatives impractical. There’s no way to get them there on time with public transit and it’s def. too far for an e-bike to get there on time.


The period of one's life during which one needs to drive the kids to rowing practice passes by fairly rapidly, in the course of the entire life. Structuring our entire society around the use cases of the very few isn't a good idea. Indeed, it would be highly beneficial to busy parents of busy kids if everyone else would get the hell off the road. Most of the people on the road have little reason to be there, other than that we've made it the default choice and outlawed everything else. If people could easily walk to the grocery store, or bicycle to the dentist, or ride a bus to their office, your trip to the boathouse would be ever so much easier.


Why not long train ride in the countryside? Or a train tour through the mountain peak. If we're talking luxuries, it's possible to make trains luxurious. They have sleeper trains for example.

A lot of thing are possible or the equivalent in a train oriented society.


> having the ability to just drive out of the city whenever I want is awesome

I can get out of London whenever I want on a train.




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