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I wouldn't even know where to start deconstructing your argument.

If you remove the sense of taste from someone, I assure you they won't enjoy food and will lose weight very quickly. Almost like that was the answer all along.

Your comment has to be made in bad faith and it's not even worth engaging with.



"No one becomes obese eating natural foods" That is the most hippy BS I have ever heard. Eat 10,000 calories of raw sugarcane a day for 1 year and get back to me on the results.

>If you remove the sense of taste from someone, I assure you they won't enjoy food and will lose weight very quickly. Almost like that was the answer all along.

Yes, reducing the number of calories you eat is how you lose weight.


Show me someone that has become obese eating 10,000 calories of sugar cane for a year. Certainly not for the lack of trying, sugar cane is delicious.

We are not calorimeters, nor furnaces. There is a reason people get obese on 10,000 kcal of junk food and virtually no one ever on 10,000 kcal of sugar cane. Focusing only on the caloric figure is completely missing the point.

Yet the immensely reductive CICO bullshit is perpetuated, because "laws of thermodynamics." Simplify a model too much and you get nonsense.


Are you really saying that you don't think someone eating 10,000 calories of Kale won't get obese?


I don't think anyone is disputing that? The challenge has always been getting people to eat less, not making them realize that is what they need to do.


> I don't think anyone is disputing that?

Oh, but they do, even right here in this very thread!

I admit it's hard losing weight - I've been there. But there are some people who will compound the difficulty of following through by denying the reality of the conservation of mass.


No, the challenge is recognising that food is not equal, and we have chemical and physical reasons why we overeat some and not others.

"Eat less food" is technically true, but as useful dietary advice as "become less obese".


> No, the challenge is recognising that food is not equal, and we have chemical and physical reasons why we overeat some and not others.

Those reasons still add up to Calories in - Calories Out. You need Out to be > than In or you will not lose weight. Eat all the kale and celery you want if you aren't burning more than you eat you won't lose weight.


it's getting them to eat less while not crashing the metabolism so that their "calories out" is constantly shifting downwards too.

and forcing people to exercise just gives them ravenous insatiable hunger. if they're not aware of this they'll reach for the carbs, ruining all their work.


They're disputing that literally in this comment thread.




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