WFH parents with kids can confirm that ~100% diseases come in via kids. The scientific community was focused on the danger to kids from COVID, which is not zero, but not that high. But the real danger was that the parents/caregivers would not be able to take care of them.
I can't speak for "the scientific community", but most of what I heard was that kids are largely unaffected by Covid 19, except for some cold symptoms, and it was the adults that were in any real danger.
Why this is even controversial is a mystery to me. Anyone who has had young kids in daycare knows this. If the study had been about the common cold instead of Covid, I doubt so many people would be triggered.
And money and propaganda. Had to keep the schools open so the parents could go to work. And there was a ton of economic force applied into trying to make everyone believe that.
Lol. What an extremely privileged take. Covid isn’t the only problem to solve for. For the vast majority if people, there are way bigger problems than covid. This was true even in march if 20202.
Who gives a shit about covid when you need to work for a living. Who gives a shit about covid when your kids literally depend on schools for healthy meals, safety and learning.
The myopic focus that work from home tech workers have on covid is so utterly detached from reality. The idea that all we should have optimized for is the spread of some respiratory virus. It’s insane. I still cannot believe the amount of privilege it takes to dismiss kids going to school.
> For the vast majority if people, there are way bigger problems than covid.
So the people living paycheck-to-paycheck should just continue business as usual and their families will be the ones dying during the pandemic, because they've got way bigger problems, got it.
1. Given that the vast majority of Covid deaths happened above retirement age, and this was pretty obvious very early on, there's very little weight to this argument.
2. What we did do in response to Covid will instead financially, educationally, and socially cripple those who already were living paycheck-to-paycheck, and make sure they stay that way for a long time.
3. So I assume you are mad at all of the upper-class families, especially those in political power who enacted the school closures, who continued to send their kids to private schools throughout the pandemic, thus furthering the spread of Covid?
> 1. Given that the vast majority of Covid deaths happened above retirement age, and this was pretty obvious very early on, there's very little weight to this argument.
COVID killed 19k people 30-39 which is 6% excess deaths, killed 46k people 40-49 which is 10% excess deaths and 201k people 50-64 which is 11% excess deaths.
The Vietnam war killed 58,000 Americans.
> 3. So I assume you are mad at all of the upper-class families, especially those in political power who enacted the school closures, who continued to send their kids to private schools throughout the pandemic, thus furthering the spread of Covid?
If they were doing that, yes. (And I can't understand how you'd think this would be some kind of 'gotcha' or that I wouldn't consider that actually worse).
The problem is that your account is coming across as a single-purpose flamewar account on a divisive topic. That kind of thing isn't in the intended spirit of the site.
It's fine to express a minority viewpoint but if that's the main thing you're doing, on a single divisive topic, then you aren't using HN as intended.
Can you please stop creating accounts to do this kind of thing? We end up having to ban them because they're not what this site is for. I don't have any problem with your views (I don't even know what they are, actually) but we need users here to use HN in the intended spirit, which is above all curiosity. Hardened battle from fixed positions is the opposite of that.
> So I assume you are mad at all of the upper-class families, especially those in political power who enacted the school closures, who continued to send their kids to private schools throughout the pandemic, thus furthering the spread of Covid?
Once you realize most of the people in favor of those mitigations fall into this bucket… it kinda starts to make sense. There is a reason so many in the laptop class supported this crap. They directly benifited from it.
> The scientific community was focused on the danger to kids from COVID,
The scientific community wasn't focused on that, political pundits were focused on that. Specifically, by shouting loudly and repeatedly that because children aren't dying from COVID, we should keep schools open.
Those pundits never had a good answer for 'But while the children aren't dying/getting seriously sick from COVID, what about their parents/grandparents/etc?'
The lieutenant governor of my state, Dan Patrick, said fairly early on that grandparents should be willing to sacrifice themselves for the economy. I asked my grandmother and she did not agree.
