So I guess HN is on a death spiral too, when submissions like this get 100+ upvotes in 4 hours. There's a lot of people that want to know how to signal properly to get a job here. That never bodes well.
Goodhart's Law: When a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure.
Dang should delete this submission.
Also, I've expressed this before, but in case Dang is reading this: HN needs to ice new users for much longer. A week or two until they can submit a post, a month or more before they can upvote.
I’m not sure asking Dang to arbitrarily censor posts that reflect existential feelings about where HN is heading is the best idea. That’s what not pressing the upvote button is for.
Agree on submission icing for new accounts I guess, as it would help people get a better idea of the guidelines and community first.
I think when submissions like this stay up, it encourages other people in the future. If you search for "hired" and sort by time you'll get this submission along with other "Who wants to be hired" posts.
"Who wants to be hired (June 2023)" : 140 points, 17 hours
This submission: 121 points, 4 hours
There's a certain kind of user / member that really craves being a part of the group and yet never really tries, he'll just try and ape what the "successful" people do. As communities get larger, these people increase in number. Submissions like this are basically crack for them. You'll get a couple of these threads every single week, and in the end you'll have to moderate the problem away anyway, because they won't just stop at "Who got hired", they'll start with "How to get hired on HN" and then try to game the entire thing. It'll tank people's confidence in getting good talent off HN. After all, there's only so much you can do to filter candidates, you can't conclusively claim "fraud" if someone has 7/10 "good" indicators.
I speak from some experience, I moderate a small niche community that doesn't require any physical capital to initiate the "hobby". There's a lot of people that just want an exclusive "community" but don't care if they're genuine about it. Some people get it, it invites countersignalling (not always direct, in-your-face stuff) and then the community degrades rapidly unless you can silo the good users away.
Isn't this overreacting a little bit over a single Ask HN? Are you surprised people look for jobs on a news board from a startup incubator, of all places?
Goodhart's Law: When a measure becomes a target, it ceases to be a good measure.
Dang should delete this submission.
Also, I've expressed this before, but in case Dang is reading this: HN needs to ice new users for much longer. A week or two until they can submit a post, a month or more before they can upvote.