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Coaching people into committing crimes, so they can meet their metrics and justify further spending.

https://theintercept.com/2015/03/16/howthefbicreatedaterrori...

>THE STING How the FBI Created a Terrorist

>Osmakac was the target of an elaborately orchestrated FBI sting that involved a paid informant, as well as FBI agents and support staff working on the setup for more than three months. The FBI provided all of the weapons seen in Osmakac’s martyrdom video. The bureau also gave Osmakac the car bomb he allegedly planned to detonate, and even money for a taxi so he could get to where the FBI needed him to go. Osmakac was a deeply disturbed young man, according to several of the psychiatrists and psychologists who examined him before trial. He became a “terrorist” only after the FBI provided the means, opportunity and final prodding necessary to make him one.

https://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/29/opinion/sunday/terrorist-...

>But all these dramas were facilitated by the F.B.I., whose undercover agents and informers posed as terrorists offering a dummy missile, fake C-4 explosives, a disarmed suicide vest and rudimentary training. Suspects naïvely played their parts until they were arrested.

https://theintercept.com/2021/08/14/911-al-qaeda-fbi-liberty...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/dec/12/newburgh-four-...

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2011/nov/16/fbi-entrapment...

>Some experts agree. "The target, the motive, the ideology and the plot were all led by the FBI," said Karen Greenberg, a law professor at Fordham University in New York, who specialises in studying the new FBI tactics.



>In March 2011, Osmakac left his job in Tampa and traveled overseas in an attempt to fight the United States and its allies. Osmakac stated that the trip was “his idea” and left abruptly, without telling his family or packing proper clothing. Osmakac originally hoped to go to Afghanistan “and fight the oppressors,” as he described “America and [its] Nato allies.” Osmakac first flew to Turkey and then to Turkmenistan, on Afghanistan's western border. However, Osmakac was denied entry into Turkmenistan because he did not have the proper travel documents. Osmakac then returned to Turkey and tried unsuccessfully to enter Iraq. Osmakac attempted to reach Iraq by crossing through Syria, on Turkey's southern border, but failed to gain entry into Syria. Following this failure to get to Iraq, Osmakac returned to the United States. Osmakac called his family from overseas in order to get money for his return flight.

>Osmakac told the mosque leader that he was “kuffar,” or an infidel, and that Osmakac was “allowed to kill [him]” and take his “women and [his] money.” Osmakac repeated his threats before two board members of the mosque, stating, “[y]ou are kuffar, you're supporting him against us as Muslims and, you know, we're going to kill all of you

https://caselaw.findlaw.com/court/us-11th-circuit/1871344.ht...


So, in summary, a man had a conversation with people at his mosque where he claimed that whatever position that they were taking on some issue was anti-Islamic and punishable by death (according to his interpretation of Islam.) However, he didn't hurt any of them or anyone else. He also left the country to join with other fundamentalists, but never managed to get to any and had to beg for money to get back home.


>in summary, a man had a conversation with people at his mosque where he claimed that whatever position that they were taking on some issue was anti-Islamic and punishable by death (according to his interpretation of Islam.)

I suppose that's one way to summarize "we're going to kill all of you".


If you had suggested this as a plot for a miniseries, you’d have been laughed out of the room as a conspiracy nut, and yet… it appears to be real.

Can we just toss all of DC and it’s thugs out and start over?


"Verified threat incident" detected. I only need to find 5 more to meet my daily quota.


It sounds like the whole department (agency even) is run by psychopaths.

The fact that it keeps happening is an indication of a systemic issue and not some agent gone rogue.




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