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> we're not going to have glaciers in like 5 years

This isn't a good-faith reading of the comment. Would most people give up the myriad of benefits of industrialization to reverse our impact on the climate?

> Fix that

People are trying. If there's one thing that doesn't help them, it's folks suggesting progress on climate change requires de-industrialisation or permanently and drastically reduced standards of living.


> Bruh we're not going to have glaciers in like 5 years.

Do you have a source for that? The predictions I remember are much longer.


It's hyperbolic (and this whole subthread thread is a good example of how hyperbole goes poorly on HN), but it' definitely a within-many-people's-lifetimes kinda problem.

Kaczynski-style anti-industrialism doesn't make for good discourse, but neither does Benthamite rah-rah-ism. Our increased material comfort comes at the price of a techno-panopticon and toxic consumerism, or as one astute observer described it, a 'boring dystopia'.


Last I heard they were supposed to be gone by the year 2000.

Edit: nevermind, it was actually just 10 years ago that Antarctica was supposed to be entirely ice-free in the summer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsioIw4bvzI

I'm sure today's models and predictions are 100% accurate and undeniable, though. "Bruh."


> 75% chance that within 5 to 7 years there could be a period of no ice cap [paraphrasing]

If you look at the trend line between 1995 and 2010 in the NASA data this was a reasonable prediction. The Northwest passage is now open for the first time in recorded history, things are melting fast.

> ...Bob used the figure of 2030...

Last I checked it wasn't 2030 yet.

NASA has a nice* video of the North polar ice cap. https://climate.nasa.gov/climate_resources/155/video-annual-...

* It's okay, the graph doesn't have a zero-indexed base which it should.

Edit: Also Antarctica is the South ice cap, not the North, which is the video clip you linked.


The source is me: I go outside where glaciers were and they're not there anymore. This is not something that's been up to debate. What do you think is causing the sea levels around the world to rise? Have you seen the news about Greenland, Antarctica, and the North Pole, recently?

https://www.unesco.org/en/articles/unesco-finds-some-iconic-...


Every five years we have someone say we won't have glaciers in five years.

The more I see these kinds of sensationalist fearmongering, the more I am content to not give a damn.




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