Nowadays, incel is synonymous with the Andrew Tate “top g”/alpha sex obsession. Backwards? Definitely, but more symbolic of the arrested development/lack of maturity than the lack of sex.

Sleeping with others’ significant others, or actively trying to/bragging about it is a perfect example. Low-class behavior that will get you props from low-class folks.

No one, or atleast very few, were sleeping with someone's significant other. Who wants to do that and then be a sitting duck at work where the angry bf/husband can walk in and see you any moment. When the women are ready to leave the bfs, that's when they contact the salesperson. I've seen it happen atleast 10 times, 2 to me personally. Even dated that nightmare for 2 years once.

But go ahead and label everything you misconstrued as low class.

Never mind what was misconstrued or not. The behavior I mentioned is low class.

If you feel it applies to you/your experience, whatever, but it’s not a personal jab.

This is a weird way to explain away a mistake. "Ya I totally strawmaned what you said, but look, my point is valid!"

I've certainly heard that fans of Andrew Tate are incels, or that their world view and advice is built for incels, but I've not heard of many people calling Andrew Tate himself an incel.

An incel maker though for sure.

I'm far from an incel (thank you height and sales skills), but I've been around the 'manosphere' online even since early "Ladder Theory" and before pickup artists learned how to internet market.

Reality is some guys are not genetically blessed PLUS they have been lied to when it comes to what women really want. If you take an average real incel, and give him advice from his mother+sister+female friends, and advice from Andrew Tate, I promise you he will get further with Andrew Tates advice.

His mom's advice MIGHT get him a girlfriend that uses him for money, and divorced later in life.. andrew Tate will atleast tell him to get actually attractive through working out and performance at work/business.