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Do you have numbers on surgeries. Im curious how "not rate" are they.



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That story does not support your claim.

And Tavistock was not doing surgeries.


Hetre are some numbers: https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/usa-tran...

Unclear how many of the kids who receive hormones end up getting surgery.


So a miniscule number, and one where the best approach to reducing it further is to encourage the use of puberty blockers to prevent getting to the stage where it is the best option until they are better able to give consent.

And yet you're arguing for denying them the option that'd reduce the demand for these surgeries.


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It "might be said" but that makes no sense to anyone who knew firmly what their gender identity was from early childhood. The norm is around 4 years of age. It also makes no sense given that dysphoria does disappear for a portion of patients irrespective of which hormones they're on. As well as for those on puberty blockers. The entire point of puberty blockers is allow for delaying the decision on going on hormones or surgery as long as needed for the patient to be able to make an informed choice.

And of course a lot of the kids given hormones will end up getting surgery, because their dysphoria is highly unlikely to resolve itself with or without hormones and for those whose dysphoria does not resolve surgery will be the best option for many - hence the very low regret rates.

And hence the drive to get puberty blockers to delay the need to decide on either.

You're buying into a hysteria founded on ignoring the actual and immoral harm being inflicted on trans youth by those seeking to deny them care in order to try to pretend they mostly don't exist. It's at best deeply misguided, at worst deeply bigoted.


You also perpetuated this flamewar very badly. Please avoid such things in the future. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


The dysphoria actually dissolves in most cases, not just in a few cases. And the hormone blockers allegedly also prevent the dysphoria from dissolving in many cases.Hormone blockers also have severe side effects, even possible sterilisation.

Since most people end up not actually being trans, more people are now hurt by pushing transitioning as the solution for everything.

And you absolutely can not deny that it is being pushed.


Sure I can. Watch:

It is not being pushed.

I'm on my phone so I can't back that up, but we've already established in this thread that is sufficient grounds to be believed.


Yeah you can say that, but then you just signal that you don't want to be taken seriously.

Not sure how you manage to live in so much denial, but if you can truly pull it off, congratulations! May it work out well for you!


Not taking the word of a random web comment who makes extraordinary claims with no evidence is not any denial at all, in fact. It's working wonderfully, and will continue to do so for many generations.


Please don't take HN threads further into flamewar. That only makes things worse.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html


If all indications you have seen for the topic being pushed on kids are my comments, you are in extreme denial.


We've banned this account for using HN primarily for ideological battle. Regardless of what you're battling for, that's not allowed here. It's not what this site is for, and destroys what it is for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html




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