It's important to remember this because those two subgroups are often in contention with one another. This is why you see high ranking members of the NSA (or other groups) advocating for strong encryption as well as high ranking members advocating against encryption. It is always clear who is who by what they are advocating for. But we definitely have a bias for hearing red team instead of blue team. I hope that shifts, because blue team is far more important (and a substantially more difficult problem).