So your family members would have rejected the help of Schindler and co while under occupation and in direct death threat?
Or would have rejected the allies when they came liberating the camps?
Seriously?
As far as I know, the jews and all other surpressed minorities of europe were making great risks, to get information (like from a hidden radio) about the advance of the allies. Because this was the main thing bringing hope.
edit: and sure, it was the gestapo who flagged you and not simply people annoyed by your insulting debate style.
>So your family members would have rejected the help of Schindler and co while under occupation and in direct death threat?
They would have accepted it out of necessity. Doesn't mean depending on "white knights" is desirable or effective. Didn't work out of several other million, for starters.
Even less desirable when there is no "direct death threat", and the victims are perfectly capable of having opinions and speaking for themselves, as opposed to others co-opting and/or hijacking their concerns.
"Doesn't mean depending on "white knights" is desirable or effective."
Well sure, no one wants to be in the position, where he or she needs to be saved in the first place, but if you are in that position - help is still needed and wanted.
"Didn't work out of several other million, for starters."
And that is simply, because no one came in time.
"Even less desirable when there is no "direct death threat", and the victims are perfectly capable of having opinions and speaking for themselves, as opposed to others co-opting and/or hijacking their concerns. "
And yes, which is why I wrote: "if you want to emporer people in general, you cannot fight their battles for them and declare them uncaple of fighting their battles. "
Nope. I did not made any claims about myself here.
I merley stated, that no one came to save the jews in europe, which is why they went to the death camps.
Which you are debating for some reason, along with personal insults.
I suppose because you think the jews should have been organized better and fend for themself?
Well, maybe. But they were not organized. They were in the weaker position and chased by the Nazis. In this situation, outside help is needed in my perception, but you may think whatever you want about it all. And if you can share what you think without insults, I might read it.
